Preacher Photographed in Tub with Granddaughter Speaks Out

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January 18, 2013 12:00 pm By Desiree Browne
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Bishop Larry Trotter of Chicago found himself in hot water yesterday after an Instagram photo of him and his granddaughter taking a bubble bath went viral. The preacher called the John Hannah Morning Show to defend himself, the the International Business News reported.

Trotter was horrified that people “called [him] everything from a child molester to a pedophile, to a nasty old man” after a photo of him and his four-year-old granddaughter appeared on Instagram. He said his family came to visit him at his home. His granddaughter saw him in the tub and after begging to get in with her “Popo”, her mother put her in swim trunks, Trotter put on his trunks and they enjoyed the bath. The child’s mother snapped the photo and another family member posted it to his Instagram.

The senior preacher at Sweet Holy Spirit Church defended his actions as completely innocent, saying:

“I know some people have never bathed with their kids, but when I was growing up we shared bathwater.”

Trotter said he was shocked that people had been so nasty about the photo and that the public outcry—with some going as far as demanding child protective services get involved—has hurt his family. He’s since suspended his Facebook and Instagram accounts.

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  • BOSSLADY

    Pervert. who in hell wants to take a bath with their Grandpa? So what, she wanted to get in with him? What happens if she wants to taste some Ciroc she sees grandpa drinking? Will they say no or OK? Children are children, they can want to do anything but adults are should be responsible enough to just say no baby I’ll give you a bubble bath when we get home. Or how about Shut the door and get out the bathroom and let Grandpa take his bath. Or how about grandpa shut the door and lock it while your but naked in the bath tub.

    • gg

      i AGREE with you 110%. Why are people so confused??? why would the mother allow that at all?@*$&#(*@?

      • Betty Martinez

        Because,He Did the Same with her,,,,,,,,Confused?Doubt It..Just passing on Creepy ACTS……Shame…….Mom…….

    • Betty Martinez

      Haaaaa!Bosslady,truth…Who does this???Creepy….CRE ……EPY….. Creep,The Mother Did The Same Thing!!! He is a Pastor???? Right……Creepy……

    • Not A Gentleman

      This is one of the most stupid things I’ve read in quite some time. First off the article clearly says bathing suits were worn. Next we have the fact that you can’t even decide who you are talking about. At first I thought you were calling the little girl a pervert, “pervert. who in the hell wants to take a bath with their Grandpa?”, is directly speaking towards the very young girl whether you understand that or not. Seriously, learn to read before you throw crap all over the internet.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nakisha.johnson.96 Nakisha Johnson

      I have sons and when they were less than a year old I would sometimes just let me baby sit in the water with me. But, once that baby stage was done and over with there was no more of that. Now, I have a grandson and yes I can see the cuteness of your grandchild wanting to get in the bubbles with grandma, but if he is 3 or 4 years old I could not allow this to happen. But, on the other hand I can see how this seemed to be an innocent act, but the man was naked in the water and then put on swimming trunks. That is not innocent water that is water that has been polluted with tale and everything else, so why would anyone want their child in there. Also, how did the little girl see him in the tub in the first place? It was not a good decision given all of the molestations and rapes happening nowadays, or simply because at a certain age children should be taught right from wrong. Telling this little girl at her age it’s okay to be half-dressed around a man and that close to his personal business is opening the wrong door.

      • http://www.wegotkidz.com/ Kesha of We Got Kidz

        “polluted with tale”… lol!

      • dyg70

        And why would someone get out of the tub to put on a bathing suit, then get back into some filthy water? You would at least drain the tub and refill it. This story does not have the ring of truth!

    • dyg70

      LOL. Tell it!

  • BOSSLADY

    All that crap about bathing with his kids in what?? 1960? Save that for someone that want to hear nonsense. This guy should not have his daughter in the Granddaughter in the bath with him.

    • realist

      Shut up bosslady, you fat bitch. I can’t even BEGIN to describe the grammatical, spelling and punctuation errors in your posts. Remove yourself from society.

      • leah

        Realist why don’t you STFU!! You’re probably some pedophile troll! Be gone!

      • FED UP WITH IT ALL

        Why does she has to be a fat bitch?? Because she speaks the truth and truth hurts?

    • FED UP WITH IT ALL

      Exactly Bosslady

  • val

    To much there is nothing wrong with what he did nothing at all and he said they had trunks on people get over yourselves taking everything to the extreme completely innocent.

    • Ms.Bubbles

      If his reasoning is he shared bath water growing up and it is a bubble bath scene why have on trucks?

      • Amarossa

        So would you have preferred him being naked?

        • KayStar34

          he probably is

    • fool of a tooke!

      You’re sick if you think this is normal behavior!! This is not two little kids or a mommy and toddler, this is an old man and a little girl! SICK! And then to take a picture of this?!? DISGUSTING! You’re either defending him because you’re sick too, or some sort of bible thumper defending him because he is in the church. Well guess what?? Some of the bigget devils hide IN THE CHURCH. This poor little girl needs to be looked after by child protective services!

      • LadyDay

        You’re ignorant. I took baths with my MOM and DAD as a kid, and nobody was molested. I think you may be the nasty one here.

        • xislndgurlx

          U took a bath with your daddy? I can see your mom, but your daddy??? Up until what age? This is not right..period!!!

          • Aeva

            I’m shocked by how seriously people are reacting to this. I showered with my dad all the time when I was younger! I was brought up by a single dad, and we didn’t have a tub (only a shower stall), so there really wasn’t any other option for a long time. I never felt uncomfortable about it, and neither did he.

            I don’t see what the problem is here…first of all, he is her grandfather. Of course incestuous rape happens, but are you seriously saying it was in danger of happening in this case ? Second, they both had their bathing suits on. How is this any different from being in a hot tub together? It may not have been the best idea to post the pic online, but it’s an adorable shot of a man and his granddaughter. Get real!

          • Intelligent Thinker

            How DO YOU KNOW they had their swimming trunks on? How do you know he isn’t lying to the media, to lessen the effects of his inappropriate behavior. Under NO circumstance is it ever ok to bathe with a child and if you showered with your daddy when you were a child, then your daddy is guilty of child abuse. No child should be forced to see their parent’s private part. If you don’t understand this, then you need some pretty good mental help.

          • geleeey

            Were you there to judge this?i didnt think so.get a life.

          • http://www.facebook.com/nakisha.johnson.96 Nakisha Johnson

            Right

        • LaDeeDa

          Again, if you or anyone else thinks that this picture is appropriate then you have absolutely no decorum or common sense. The buck has to stop somewhere — public or private this photograph is just plain WRONG!

        • Intelligent Thinker

          You’re mommy and daddy are guilty of child abuse if they took a bath with you and allowed you to see their private parts. Are you proud of that? You need serious mental help. It is inappropriate to BATHE with a child!!!

          • Armchair Psychologist

            You have some issues, I think. Your vitriolic responses to this seem to be masking some inner turmoil due to a trauma you faced…perhaps as a child? If that’s the case, maybe you should stop posting and see a therapist.

          • MaggieJack

            Why do you think you in a position to counsel this person? If you really want to know why many people have a negative opinion of Bishop Trotter, I suggest you Google him. Then, come back and tell us who needs a “therapist”.

          • wise_up

            I agree with you. this is SICK and SAD!!!

          • Diamondz28x2

            Excuse me, but you’ve got some serious issues an nerve making the comments that you’re making. Every comment you’ve made that I’ve read has me shaking my head. You are extremely ignorant if you believe the bs coming out of your own mouth. For one, you and every other a$$hole on here complaining about how perverted, messed up and sick this is get real, none of you know this family and how they act around each other. For all you know they are a close nit family that are very affectionate. Secondly where do you get off criticizing kids who take showers with their parents. When I was younger, up until I was about 8 (which is when I started taking showers on my own) every once in a while I would shower with my mom or sister (who is 14 years older than me). I did so because I got bored simply taking baths sometimes so I would ask if I could shower with one of them. And guess what. THERE WAS NOTHING PERVERTED ABOUT IT. Omg big shocker for you group of bigots. I was just a little girl taking a shower with the two main women in her life, (my mom and dad had split and my sister was always like a 2nd mother to me). I wasn’t freaked out or uncomfortable, it was just the way it was, getting cleaned up after a long day. You people need to chill the fvck out and get your mind out of the gutter. Do I necessarily agree with the grandfather taking a bath with his granddaughter? No personally I would never allow that to happen, but I’m not screaming child molester over something I know nothing about and as far as I’m concerned was and innocent moment between two family members that the mother consented to.

          • Moriah

            One question What about a child who is nursing? I’m not talking the toddler nursing here, let’s go ahead and say under two, since the World Health Organization does not recommend weaning before age two. To breastfeed, a woman must expose her “private parts” to her child.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adrienne-Huntley/100000224697829 Adrienne Huntley

        shut up cunt

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1643777246 Blessfrombirth Fairman

        omg lml,some of the biggest devils hide in the church lol lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • poohy on you

          this has NOTHING to do with the church…This is a G-father and G-daughter having some fun time playing in a bubble bath and creating wonderful memories….Her little face is full of happiness and joy and his is showing love and gratitude for the chance to have this beautiful time of play with his g-daughter. And since a picture was taken, it is obvious that they were not being left alone but sharing the fun with others. Kudo’s to a wonderful G-parent for not “putting-off” his G-daughter with excuses as to why he couldn’t share his time. This is a beautiful expression of a beautiful relationship between them and it shows in their smiles and the laughter in their eyes. Beautiful picture to be cherished….stop trying to tarnish it with stinking thinking. Shame on you.

      • Guest

        You need to calm down and check yourself. My nieces and nephews have bathed with my mom. The article states a family member took and posted it. I’m sorry, but it sounds as though you have been abused and see bad in these things. If you were, I’m sorry, but not all men are pervs.

      • http://www.facebook.com/ariadne.helene Ariadne Helene

        you are crazy and sound like you were abused. you need to stop projecting, because you don’t know jack sh$t about this little girl or the family to be saying she needs CPS. you sound like a ranting lunatic.

      • yolo

        why does it have to be a mommy? if a mom does it then its not a problem? what about a father? a father can not bath his own children. What kind of society is this when a father/grandfather is not permitted to bath his children. there is nothing wrong with this picture. look at the little girls face? does she look scared, distress or afraid. she looks happy and joyful. He did nothing wrong others have messed up this world for us. jezz

      • shamsa

        I agree with you, this is wrong!

      • poohy on you

        You need to get your mind out of the gutter! It is OBVIOUS that it was simply a fun time bubble bath….how wonderful that a G-daughter can feel so loved and have such a wonderful memory. She probably made him a buble beard and he probably put bubbles on the tip of her nose. To make something ugly out of this is what is really disgusting. You must have had some kind of ugly experience in your life to so vehemently spew out such negative thoughts. It is sad for you to believe that all are guilty when such a delightful fun/play time can be made so dirty in your eyes.

      • Louie V

        Well I guess I’m going to walk out on my family because I’ve changed my daughters diaper and bathed her before. I thought I was being a good Daddy by helping my wife out, but I must be a sicko and need help. I need to be taught to view the world as you do and be scared and threatened by everything. Jk This guy is no child molester he is a grandfather who wanted to make his grand daughter happy. Preacher or no preacher, he is her grand dad. His daughter, her mom was right there the whole time. I guess she is in on it too huh. They stopped their sick ways for a few moments to cheese for the camera in case of suspicion….It’s a cover up…bath gate! Haha conspiracy theory freaks… What gives you the right to pass judgement on everyone just because you’re paranoid about the world. You’ve watched too much Law & Order Gandalf. But I don’t think it should be posted on FB or anywhere else, that was just asking for it.

        • dyg70

          Changing a diaper isn’t the same thing as sittin’ up in a tub with a 4-year-old. Any decent man would feel it was inherently uncomfortable.

          • Moriah

            Which grin looks forced? The grandfather’s, or the kid’s? I’d go for grandpas, no one smiles that way normally.

      • galeeey

        Thats hypocritical!

  • Ms.Bubbles

    As a parent I have taken showers with my baby when they where young. But in my opinion 4 years old is to big to take a bath with any adult. Growing up we all shared bath water. However, it was with other children of the same sex and age group. I just would like to know how the little girl father feels about all this.

  • Amanda

    People are in too much of a hurry to find fault with other people. It seems to me people WANT a scandel, and look for things they can twist. What’s wrong with grandpa having a bubble bath CLOTHED with his 4 year old granddaughter? Same thing as a hot tub or swimming pool. Get over your selves people!

    • sarah

      Totally. My family always took clothed baths/swims/showers together and there was NEVER anything inappropriate happening. Kids love baths and no wonder she wanted to jump in. Not everyone has access to the beach or pools in the middle of February. I understand some people’s negative response but a picture doesn’t always explain everything. Calm down and stop judging.

      • Aliza Smallwood

        It was a dumbbell thing to do!

      • Intelligent Thinker

        It’s INAPPROPRIATE for a child to bathe with her grandfather. If you can’t see that, you are as dumb as a doorknob. just because your family did inappropriate things to you as a child, doesn’t mean its ok for other little children.

        • Jen Turner

          Sounds like your the freakshow who’s dumb as a doorknob and not intelligent whatsoever.I think you are the one whose family did inappropriate things to and now you wrongly assume every guy is a child molester in disguise. You’re messed up. This man is not a pervert like your father, grandfather, brother, uncle whoever messed you up. He was innocently enjoying a bubble bath FULLY clothed with his granddaughter who was also fully clothed. You just WANT him to be the bad guy here, the only reason you find it “innapropriate” is because of your own messed up perveted mind. You need serious help!

          • dyg70

            Where do you see clothes in this picture?

        • Louis

          Wait . . . what?! O_o

      • dyg70

        The operative word being clothed.

    • http://twitter.com/NJWedPlanner SamanthaRenee Events

      My father wouldn’t allow me to sit on another mans lap, let alone take a bath with them. Regardless if it’s family or not! SMH It’s some things you don’t do. I doubt they had clothes on. They’ll say anything to not look bad.

      • http://www.facebook.com/nakisha.johnson.96 Nakisha Johnson

        I totally agree

      • NotParanoid

        Your father wouldn’t let you sit on your grandpa’s lap? Wow…just wow. Paranoid much?

    • KayStar34

      But I didn’t see any clothes, did you? And why would a little girl be wearing “trunks” as opposed to a cute litte bathing suit? Girls don’t wear trunks!

      • Amanda

        For cryin in the night, who cares if a toddler wears “gender appropriate” swim wear? Her business was covered, and so was his. Of course no one can SEE their clothing, it’s a bubble bath for Pete’s sake! Get your minds out of the gutter!

      • dyg70

        Okay? Thank you. Why would the mama just happen to put bikini bottoms on the little girl? I bet she’s butt nekkid in that photo.

  • amaya0828

    Come on now…….he should know better shit than that….why in the fuck are these photo not in the photo album…you must want people to think your a pervert…..why do you even have to explain ….creepy

  • Concerned

    Now he tells his side of the sick/twisted story! how long was he in the tub before the granddaughter walked -in? secondly, he was naked exposing all his bodily fluids in the water. the little girl should-not have been allowed to be in the tub period. I hope this little incident will be a lesson for them to learn. and anybody else who might do something like this . Think positive .

    • http://twitter.com/mtdoonmeister Doc Holliday

      OMG!!!

      HE WAS EXPOSING ALL HIS BODILY FLUIDS IN THE WATER!

      OMG

      SHE WAS EXPOSING ALL HER BODILY FLUIDS IN THE WATER, TOO!

      JUST LIKE WHEN THEY ARE IN A PUBLIC SWIMMING POOL…

      QUICK! Call the bodily fluids police…

      You are one seriously sick individual…

      • Meelah

        I don’t think “bodily fluids” area a factor in this situation but in a public pool they put chlorine in the water to handle any bodily fluids.

        • Aretha Redden

          Exactly, waste and dirt secretiants from his body, which is the main reason we take baths is in the tub that she was expose to even though they allegedly had on swim gear. And there is No Chlorine (good example) in bath water. It’s inappropriate, no matter how innocent.

      • http://www.facebook.com/misstruth.hurts MissTruth Hurts

        Please stop….cant breath *DEAD*

    • http://www.facebook.com/misstruth.hurts MissTruth Hurts

      Sorry but um ………LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! ” secondly, he was naked exposing all his bodily fluids in the water”…Y’all muthafukka’s is crazy on this b!tch….Really, my face is red as hell laughing at this one-liner …LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! < This is how I really feel

  • SU-K

    OH MY GOODNESS, WTF….HELL NAW, WHAT KINDA PERV-SHYTE IS THAT,,,THEY KNOW BETTER…THIS DOES NOT LOOK RIGHT AT ALL, NOW HAD THERE NOT BEEN BUBBLES, WHERE WE COULD VISUALLY SEE THE SWIM TRUNKS, THEN MAYBE JUS MAYBE I WOULD SAY WELL … THAT’S STILL NOT GOOD..SWIM TRUNKS OR NOT
    HE IS MALE AND SHE IS FEMALE YOUNG GIRL, WHAT TYPE OF SHYTE GOES ON IN PEOPLES FAMILIES AMAZES ME…THEY SHOULD HAVE KEPT THE PHOTO TO THEMSELVES AND ANOTHER THING I WOULD HAVE EXPLAINED TO MY TODDLER, THAT IT IS INAPPROPRITE FOR GRAND-DAD AND BABY TO BE IN THE BATHTUB TOGETHER, AS MUCH AS SHE COULD UNDERSTAND…OMG..HE IS RUINED FOR LIFE NOW……CRICKETS….. .

    • meliahi

      your sound dum he had swim trunks and the baby had shorts on

      • jazz

        and just how in the hell can we verify that?

        • Lolly

          and just how in the world can we verify that he DIDN’T have trunks on?

  • miaaliyah

    long as he had bottoms on them it shouldn’t b an big deal took it way out of proportion

  • Really???

    Despite the ideal of him wearing swimwear or not… I don’t believe that he is oblivious to all the cases of child abuse and pedophilia that invades our society & people’s sensitivity to the issue … therefore a responsible adult would not allow “his good to be evil spoken of” if he was actually being good. In my opinion if this event was innocent and nothing more… did it really need to be shared with the world & are you actually shocked that people freaked out like they did??Many people have been abused by family members esp supposedly clergy men so I find it very stupid that this was even a posted picture. Ignorance is a prevalent and contagious disease that is affecting millions by the hour.

  • Meelah

    Before you even get into the issue of her being in the tub you have to ask how she ended up in the bathroom. Why was she able to get in there while he was taking a bath. Why didn’t he direct her back out of the door verbally or call her grandmother or whomever took the pic to come get her. As far as “sharing” bath water I didn’t do that personally but it’s not rare for children to bathe together and as they get older they might only bathe with a child of the same sex. I’ve heard of small children bathing with their mothers until they get a certain age but not with their fathers.

  • Rhoadrunner18

    Unfortunately we don’t live in an innocent society. The pastors explanation seemed totally innocent and I feel bad the feedback was so hurtful. However, if you have ever been a victim to this type of behavior then you know the perp always appear innocent. A good example would be Jerry Sandusky. It should not have been placed in social media… Bad decision.

  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.grisby.5 Robert Grisby

    I thought it was Prolly innocent but in this day and age you cant be too careful. If it was innocent, Why the picture and the post? You never want to rush to judgement but if I’m gonna err it would be on the side of caution.

    • Lolly

      the article said that another family member posted the photo.

  • Kek

    It’s ridiculous that everybody else’s opinion should even affect what you do within your own family. People kill me with that “it may be innocent but in this day in age he should know how people are gonna take it” bs. WHY DOES IT MATTER HOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA TAKE IT? WHY? It’s nobody else’s family or business. He’s not hurting her why should he feel like he’s being a perv cause other people think he is? So quick to make something out of nothing. So quick to pull parents and their children a part (don’t discipline them, don’t raise your voice, don’t show too much affection to them because of how it might look) and then wonder why these kids are growing up all screwed up out their minds and killing people for no reason!

    • frankiejames

      When you post it on facebook or instagram or whatever, you give people licenses to talk about it and then you left to let it affect you.

      • http://www.facebook.com/ryan.kesler.549 Ryan Kesler

        No, you DON’T give licenses to people when you put photos on your FB, IG or whatever, self-entitled people decide to TAKE those licenses without permission instead of minding their own business. And really think about the logic of your statement, because it’s one of the stupidest things I’ve read so far: you’re basically saying that this guy GAVE the licenses to everyone because he wanted to be called a pedophile or child molester? And basically you’re saying despite the fact that it’s a bunch of people who are abusing the family and ruining this guy’s reputation, it’s the family’s fault for posting the photo? You’re probably one of those guys who think it’s the woman’s fault for being raped. Please kill yourself.

        • Not A Gentleman, Spehs Mahreen

          Actually they do have licenses to speak about it… Unless you post on the picture a sub caption stating that the only way someone is allowed to talk about it is if they have legal written consent from you to do so, and then if you are in a country with free speech laws (unless you payed the government to like you, if you are in America) you would be breaking a law in a way.

          To you, Ryan Kesler, I ask if you live in a country where freedom of speech is not allowed. From there I will ask that if you aren’t, that you shut the hell up anyway, because your free speech is terrible.

    • xislndgurlx

      Question: So because it’s “family” its okay? So if it was your 3-4 year old daughter and she “saw” him taking a bubble bath, would it be okay if she got in? I’m shocked at that some find this ok.

      • Not A Gentleman

        Well, I’m thinking that sense my 3-4 year old daughter isn’t related to him it would be weird. Your argument ignores the fact you are arguing against. Skill Rating 0/10 for you. F-. Absolute Failure.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arch-Cheriea-Phillippa-Strachan/501680894 Arch-Cheriea Phillippa Stracha

          how is she not related to him, she’s his grandaughter

          • Not A Gentleman, Spehs Mahreen

            You also failed to read. I said my daughter would not be related to him, so in those circumstances it would be weird.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alicia-Berry/1252013946 Alicia Berry

        So am I! Then again, we as a nation don’t address molestation like we need to. I can’t fathom my child bathing with any adult, how anybody sees this as appropriate is beyond me.

        • http://www.facebook.com/ryan.kesler.549 Ryan Kesler

          Well until we as a nation up the average IQ a little, we can’t address molestation “like we need to” because we have idiots like you two accusing innocent people of molestation. Stop posting idiotic psychobabble on the internet and study more. You’re welcome.

    • http://www.facebook.com/theresagtorres Tg Torres

      You put it better than anyone on here!!

    • Poohy to you

      AMEN…I say we bring back Ye Ole Woodshed and discipline children in a way that has an effect. A spanking for bad behavior is NOT abuse….and don’t forget to teach children that self pride does NOT mean going around in public half naked or showing the world their butt crack!!! So saddened by the things that are considered “acceptable” nowadays….and saddened that something as beautiful as a G-parent sharing some fun time with a G-child can be twisted into something ugly.
      But alas, the way our society is heading probably in 20 or 30 years if this HAD BEEN something more than a bubble bath it will be acceptable. That is the path our society is heading down with the theroy of acceptance that is so “in” now….what was unacceptable only a decade ago is now fine and dandy to most because acceptance has been shoved down our throats. So sad.

      • http://www.facebook.com/christopher.gates.37 Christopher Gates

        Yeah i agree with you. It may be innocent. They may have had clothes on, but the perception is that they dont. They had to know this was going to generate a negative reponse. But I guess common sense is not as commen as we would like to believe. I vote bad choice for posting the picture to be judged by the world.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arch-Cheriea-Phillippa-Strachan/501680894 Arch-Cheriea Phillippa Stracha

          that’s my problem too, the family member who put on instagram should have know better, they should have kept this private.

    • Intelligent Thinker

      I can’t even finish reading your statement because in your first 2 lines I could tell you were a stupid simpleton. How do you know that this man is telling the truth when he says they have swimming trunks on??? He could be just saying that to lessen the affect that this disgusting picture has on the media. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE IS IT EVER OK TO BATHE WITH A CHILD. If you don’t get that, you are as dumb as they come.

  • Andrea

    Leave this man alone! DON’T nothing about this picture screams pedofile he’s just spending time with his grand daughter!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/theresagtorres Tg Torres

      AMEN!

  • Fed_Up18

    I used to shower with my father when i was young. And why? Because if my parents left me in the bathtub, I would just play around & never get washed. No one thought anything of it, BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING TO THINK. My brother *also* showered with us. And when it stopped, I was very disappointed, because to me it was a family togetherness thing. But all my father ever said was “you’re old enough to wash yourself.” I guarantee you this little girl, *being innocent* thought the same thing, & that’s all there was. Do you really think if they were doing anything wrong, they’d be stupid enough to broadcast it in public??

    • FED UP WITH IT ALL

      PEOPLE BROADCAST STUPID SHIT ALL THE TIME…

    • KayStar34

      yes

    • Intelligent Thinker

      You’re father showered with you as a child?? Yeah that’s totally SICK. No grown adult should ever bath in front of his child– you should never have to look at your father’s private part – that’s INAPPROPRIATE. I’m sorry I’m the first one to tell you this but its the truth. And the fact that you don’t know it was inappropriate of your father to shower with you, means you need some serious counseling.

      • Fed_Up18

        Little children don’t have the shame adults place on the human body; it’s YOU who need the counseling.

      • kojo

        ive noticed on quite a few posts that @intelligent_thinker:disqus has been purposely writing uneducated posts just to rile people up. I’ve seen you fam haha, you clearl need attention because we know there was nothing wrong here. Let it slide and focus your energy on positive things, stop being keyboard warrior.

    • Charlotte

      Right!? I was thinking the same thing– my dad used to take a bath with me and my brother as kids! I was 3-5, and it rarely happened, but it was always a riot. It was the best way to get us clean after a long day outside– we’d resist the bath until Dad agreed he’d get in too and let us dump water on his head and put bubbles in his hair. It was always in good fun and my mom would be on the other side of the tub, washing our hair while we played and made bubble-beards on his face. People nowadays are so paranoid and weird…I can guarantee that I’m not the only one who had bath-time with daddy and brother when I was a toddler back in the 90s.

  • Joe B.

    People assume the worst because they are the sick ones. They live their lives in prepetual fear of what are fairly rare occurances whether it be crime or rape or terrorism or (as in this case) pedophilia. Their efforts to assauge their own fears throws suspicion on everyone else and society ends up paying the price for their delusions with their freedoms.

    It isn’t always fear, however; that contributes to this behavior sometimes it is a desire to control other people and force them into narrowly defined expectations of what constitutes “normal behavior.”

    If anyone has ever seen the movie Doubt, by the end of the movie the audience doesn’t know whether the priest has molested the little boy, but we do know that his antagonist – a nun – is willing to ruin his life based on her suspicions.

    • PLA

      Crime and rape are nowhere near rare. Child molestation is off the charts common. Nearly every woman I know has either been raped or molested. I saw stats once that said about 50 percent of women have been, but I would put it closer to 90 percent.

      • http://www.facebook.com/theresagtorres Tg Torres

        Just because it isn’t rare doesn’t mean that everyone is suspect! I was molested as a child and had found it very hard to trust males for quite a long time; I finally learned they ARE NOT ALL THE SAME.

        When I first became a mom, I trusted NO man alone with my daughter, not even her father. In realizing that not every man was the same way along with teaching my daughter boundaries and speaking up for herself; I’m confident she’d be fine. I trust her with no one more than I do with my best friend and sweetheart who’s known us for 12 years now. My daughter was only two when she met him and had no reservations about him despite him being the tallest and huskiest man she’s ever seen which says a lot considering she was a shy child. She would climb up and sit on his lap playing; she’ll call him “Daddy Terry” now… NOT EVERYONE IS A PERV!

  • Anonymous

    why was this child even in a position to see him taking a bath in the first place? This is weird…

    • shamsa

      I was thinking the same thing! OMG, why was the bathroom door open? WTF!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=663830197 Iam Sapphire

    The only thing wrong with this in my opinion is the dumb family member who thought this should have been shared online…people share every damn thing these days…dumb

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1643777246 Blessfrombirth Fairman

      true…. if them taking a shower thy post it on fb smh @ these ppl

    • http://www.facebook.com/alice.kennedysamb Alice Kennedy-Sambe

      I agree with your comment. There is just something you really don’t have to share on the internet.

    • STRESSFREE

      yup

    • faye

      I agree! Have fun at home an talk about it! Do not send pictures on the web. To many stupid people with crazy minds. When they talk, they are talk about what they would do. SAD! SAD! SAD!

    • Intelligent Thinker

      There IS A PROBLEM with a GROWN MAN taking a bath with a 4 year old little girl. Who knows if they’re telling the truth about having swimming trunks on – he could’ve just said that to the media. It’s disgusting and he needs to be investigated!!! Since you agree with it so much, you must be a child molester too.

      • Kory Green

        Why? Would a grown woman make you more comfortable? Women don’t molest kids?

      • Dev

        Fallacious reasoning re: your child molester association. The girl is 4. She is clearly not upset in this photo, and she is with a relative who is also with other family members. He’s not touching her inappropriately, nor is there anything sexual to this photo. At this age she has not yet come to the understanding of sexuality. Unfortunately for her, she will one day view this photo and the ignorant commentary and wonder if she had done something wrong. Shame on you. Btw, I’m 28 and female and see nothing wrong with this photo other than some things should remain in private photo albums and not posted in a public forum. Also, I’ve never looked at a child in a malicious or lecherous way. YOU, dear IT (poor choice of an internet pseudonym) are what is wrong with this world.

        • @antoine_poloboy

          true people just make something out of nothing

      • http://www.facebook.com/beverly.durant.1 Beverly Durant

        I AGREE 100%. TRUNKS ON OR NOT. NO, NO, NO, AND HELL NO. LET SOMEONE IN MY FAMILY ASK TO HAVE MY GRANDBABY OR DAUGHTER GET IN TUB WITH THEM. ONLY GOD CAN HOLD ME BACK. THE LITTLE GIRL WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL POP POP GET HIS NASTY ASZ OUT OF THE TUB. AND FURTHERMORE, WHY WOULD THEY GO INTO THE BATHROOM WHY HE IS TAKING A BATHE ANYWAY. THIS IS WRONG ON A LOT OF LEVELS.

        • KailaP

          I honestly don’t see anything wrong with it, I understand why so many alarsm were rasied though because of the very nasty sick minded people we have in this world. However, her mother was there I think they both thought of it like an indoor beach with bubbles, I’ve bathed with both my parents several tmes when I was younger and I’m not emotionally scarred nor have I ever been molested.

        • NotAFool

          How is it different than a jaquzzi? Its not. The only thing different is that you have your mind in a gutter. Learn to use punctuation & find the Caps Lock key, you closed minded fool.

        • exoticcaterers

          don’t stop, tell us how many levels this is so wrong!!!

        • http://www.facebook.com/karen.stanford.908 Karen Stanford

          Intelligent thinker? Really? You’ve got to be the dumbest bytch living!!! Fool, everybody isn’t into that sick crap! I was in and out of the bathroom while my dad, brothes, cousins, etc. were butt naked, it was no big deal, and there wasn’t even a hint of molestation or sexual preversty. YOU HAVE SOME SERIOUS ISSUES, GET HELP!!!

        • sentimental

          You are so right! I agree with you and all those that think there is something wrong with this picture. First of all why! Next, the whole act is questionable, now and in the future. Can you imagine how this picture will be explained when the child is say 13 or 16 yrs old. I’m not sure what the mother was thinking only that she may have been a victim of incest too and doesn’t know that these type of acts are just wrong.

      • http://www.huglifesaints.com/ R.I.P. Fatt Kidd

        I bathe with my 1 year old son. Come track me down. Let me know if you need my address.

        • Anti-believer

          You can’t compare a 1 yr old to a 4 yr old. What is your address? I’m going hop in there with you! Skoot over! I’m 39.

      • SomeoneSmart

        You’re stupid

      • http://www.facebook.com/ryan.kesler.549 Ryan Kesler

        You’ve obviously been molested at some point in your life and that’s very sad, but face and deal with your problems instead of projecting them onto innocent people. If you think this is disgusting, you’re so paranoid and so close to insanity that you need to be locked up before you snap and hurt someone.

      • Charlotte

        Whoa, slow down there, Tex….you’d make a shitty judge, considering your broad accusations.

      • http://www.facebook.com/marilyn.willett.5 Marilyn Willett

        exactly

      • exoticcaterers

        You are the problem!!!

      • Hsialin

        Idiot.

      • sweets

        I think there is a problem too to be honest. A grown man should not be exposing his nakedness to a 4yr old girl. Whether it was an innocent moment or otherwise, this does cross a line and is inappropriate.

        • paul

          He put on his swim trunks. Do you not read??

    • http://www.facebook.com/beverly.durant.1 Beverly Durant

      I AGREE WITH THE ONLINE POSTING, BUT A MAN IN THE TUB WITH A LITTLE GIRL/BOY IS NOT ACCEPTABLE IN THIS ERA.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Aaron-Alleyne/11104186 Mark-Aaron Alleyne

        I disagree!!! that’s his grand daughter!!! Would u not bathe with ur grand child/ child? And if not, then it was his choice! Nothing is wrong with the foto. It’s an innocent photo. It shud have simply remained private and not shared on the internet.

        • Maggie Rae

          I’m not surprised that you see nothing wrong with the “foto”, any man who sees nothing wrong with ‘hitting a woman” would not object to a grandfather taking a bubble bath with his granddughter.

        • http://www.facebook.com/KarenCookeKofoet Karen Cooke Kofoet

          i didn’t bathe with either of my children & won’t with my grand children either. when we even had outside showers at the beach i would help them get their suits off & they would rinse off but i would towel them off & put clothes on them then i would go in.

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  • truth

    its the creepy smile

  • NOLA

    i think this is totally inappropriate. Read the comment he said: my family came over, after his granddaughter seen him in the tub, she begged her mother to let her get in. So he was already in the tub naked. His granddaughter came into the bathroom and seen him in the tub and wanted to get in.Then her mother thought that was ok so she put swim trunks on the little girl. So the grandfather got out the tub and put swim trucks on also and got back into the tub with his granddaughter, cause it would be fun for her to be in bubbly water that he had bathe in.Really??? So they have swim trunks in the house to fit everyone who visits. There are soooooo many clues in this story that point to the fact that some kind of investigation needs to happen. Who would allow their daughter to go in the bathroom while her grandfather is taking a bath. If the little girl wanted to play in water she should do so in a pool or in the tub by herself not with her grandfather.

    • Brittany

      My mother in law has a swimming pool with all of our bathing suits there, want to know why? Because shes the only one with the damn pool.. its not really that far fetched at all.

    • deja

      I agree!!!! wholeheartedly!!!!

    • Maggie1865

      I had decided that I wouldn’t comment on this story when I read it a while back. However, I’m a little disturbed by some of the comments indicating that people are making too much of this story. I had/have some of the same questions about the circumstances around how the little girl ended up in the bathtub with her grandfather.

      I’m sure the grandfather must have known that his family was coming for a visit. So, if it was necessary that he bathe, knowing they would be arriving (perhaps while he was in the tub), why wasn’t the bathroom door closed? If the door was closed, why was it not locked? Why would the child’s mother allow her to go into the bathroom? And, they may have been wearing swim wear, but to the observer, they are just taking a bubble bath together. Because, taking a bath normally means just that. We do not wear clothing in the bath. This is the difference in being in a swimming pool, or, a lake.

      Everything has its own purpose. The purpose of a bathtub is to bathe the body, not to swim the body. I do not understand why we get so upset when other people question our actions that seem incorrect. And this idea that other cultures in a whole different part of the world is (in my opinion) irrevelevant. What’s acceptable in one society does not mean it’s acceptable in another.

      I have a feeling that the responses would be alot different if this story was about a non-African American family. In my mind, it’s time we stop defending behavior in our community that is frowned upon in our society. No, I ‘m not saying that the minister’s actions were sexual in nature, I’m not saying that he is a pervert, and I’m not saying that he has more than likely abused his own children.

      To the contrary. He and his daughter probably thought the little girl would enjoy playing in the water with her grandpa, period. But we do have to consider how our actions and our behaviours are perceived by others. And in my opinion (again) we should care what people think in cases like this one. Oh, and by the way, we are warned all the time about taking pictures and transmitting them via technology. We gotta’ start paying attention to things that are totally innocent to us, but can potentially become detrimental to us. Be careful when sending photos via cell phones, facebook, intragram, etc.

      • Aretha Redden

        Absolutely! Well said.

      • http://www.facebook.com/gera.anderson Gera Anderson

        No, it’s time we START defending our culture and community, not kowtow to what the mainstream says is the standard without question. The mainstream says “don’t sleep with your children, let them tell you when they want to be toilet-trained, no spanking, etc.” Are we going to let them determine our ways of being? No one is talking about cultures around the world, the U.S. itself is multicultural. You appear to be at consciousness that says we need to worry about what others (white folks?) think. “We have to consider how our actions and our behaviours are perceived by others?” Fudge that! Supposedly conservative behavior has not curbed abuse one bit. Pedophiles and perverts don’t usually do their deeds out in the open. They find a way to exist even if they are never naked in front of their victim. They probably show the utmost of conservative behavior in public. In my humble opinion, we have got to stop focusing on the trivial things, and focus on what matters! Many Blacks forever stay closed-mined about certain topics (gays, sex to name a couple) and meanwhile issues such as teen pregnancy and AIDS are running rampant.

        • Maggie1865

          Gera, you’ve said alot in response to my post that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. However, I’ll try to address what you said. As far as talking about cultures around the world, I was responding to what some of the other posters had already said about what other cultures practice in their families. I said what they do is irrelevant to what the practices are in America (in essence). Someone made a reference to what people in Japan do. So, I don’t know what your point on cultures is in regards to my comment.
          Next, I said nothing about sexual abuse, pedophila, and perverts in relation to Mr. Trotter and his granddaughter’s picture in the bubble bath. I did not say anything about white people, so I don’t know where you got that from. As far as me saying: “We have to consider how our actions and our behaviours are perceived by others?” Yes, I said that, and I meant it. And I still mean it.
          Yes, you are correct, the Black community has a myriad of problems, which includes very thing you stated, and more. However, this opinion forum is strictly about the article on Bishop Trotter’s bubble bath with his granddaughter. That’s what I was/am responding to. Nothing more and nothing less.
          If you want to take on every problem that exist in the Black community, go ahead. I’m sticking to the subject at hand. And, you are free to do exactly what you’re accusing me and NOLA of doing: Making ASSUMPTIONS about the two of us. By the way, if being a “prude” means a grandfather not taking a bath with his young grandchild, then so be it. I’m proud to be a “prude”.

          • Not A Gentleman

            I came here late but despite my non-gentlemanly nature, I’m going to say I approve of your ability to… well… read, unlike most of the people around here. Your posts score is 10/10, for literacy.

          • MaggieJack

            Well, Not A Gentlman, thank you so much for such an outstanding score on my post. But, I must ask you this: Are you a literacy teacher or just someone who is a ‘stickler’ for literacy? I noticed that you’ve graded several posters on their reading/writing ability (as you see it) here. I appreciate people who are able to write well (the content doesn’t matter) because it is important that people are able to convey their thoughts and ideas in a way that others understand clearly what they’re thinking. However, it seems that the thinking now, is reading well and writing well are unimportant when using social media. So, my question to you is a serious. I really would like to know why you’re stressing literacy and writing skills here.

          • Not A Gentleman, Spehs Mahreen

            For the fun of it. Sometimes I just like to poke at people to relieve my massive boredom.

          • MaggieJack

            Well, my friend, seems like you’ve found the perfect outlet for your boredom. You have an awful lot of papers to grade. Have fun!

        • dyg70

          Incest is a 99.9% universal taboo.

      • Poohy on you

        “In my mind, it’s time we stop defending behavior in our community that is frowned upon in our society.”……and how do you feel about girls/women who wear low cut blouses/tops and let their breasts bulge out?? or Gay relationships? or mixed marriages?? all of these types of things are generally “accepted” and even pushed on society when they should be, and for ages were, frowned upon! It is an attitude of acceptance that has allowed these things to encroach on our values and put aside what is right and wrong. I believe incest, and perversion are wrong….when it is real and can be proven, but as you say, “He and his daughter probably thought the little girl would enjoy playing in the water with her grandpa, period.” Why does society go balistic over this innocent act and yet are so passive and accepting of other wrongs??? Why is alright to put advertising on TV for condoms, and male inhancement products, and bras n panties, etc….in prime time no less!!… why are these things not frowned on by society any more??…Society has become filled with hypocrits..wrong is wrong, innocent is innocent…but society seems to pick and choose in a haphazardly way. If I go into a store lets say, and I am offended by the magazines on display, or by being subject to a view of near nudity, or by observing gays or lesbians being openly demonstrative, I have no rights to point out their inappropriate behavior….a society that doesn’t frown on these kind of things has no right to trash a G-father taking a bubble bath with his G-daughter!

        • MaggieJack

          Poohy, I really don’t know in which direction you’re going. Your first reply to me and this one (above) are totally different in tone. But as I already stated to you, there are a myriad of problems in the Black community, but, I, along with all the other posters (well most) are addressing the article: “Preacher Photographed in Tub With Granddaughter Speaks Out”. This article’s content (mainly the picture) is what people are voicing their opinions on.
          Why would I, or, anyone else start talking about all the ills of society, based on this article? There are thousands of written articles and stories that address most of what you are raising. But this article is not one of them.
          As far as people not having the “right to trash a G-father taking a bubble bath with his G-daughter!” is just plain unreasonable to me. Bishop Trotter made his own decision, knowing that most people do not see his actions in a favorable light. In my opinion, it is inappropirate for an adult to take a bath or shower with a child. Period. And to take a picture and transmit it via technology, is (in my opinion) not to smart.
          When you say the public has no right to trash the Bishop, I think you mean that people don’t have a right to criticize him for this particular act. Well, I disagree. If he has the right to publically involve himself in all kinds of social issures, then I have a right to criticize him on this particular issue.
          I mean no disrespect to you Poohy, but, I am not going to address the other things that go on in society that you talked about. Because, I always stick to the subject or topic at hand. And the issues that you raised have nothing to do with Mr. Trotter and his granddaughter taking a bubble bath together. In other words, this article is not a ‘story starter’.

        • MaggieJack

          Poohy, I owe you an apology. I confused you with another poster whose reply to me on this article is very similiar to yours. Thinking that you were that person, I made several references to what I had stated to the other person. However, my overall reply to you is how I feel about the Bishop and this granddaughter’s picture in the bubble bath. Again, I’m sorry for the error. Be well my friend!

        • dyg70

          Huh? You can’t see an ad for a bra on tv but a topless little girl in a tub with an old man is okay with you?

    • http://twitter.com/char009twit Char

      Agreed!

    • http://www.facebook.com/gera.anderson Gera Anderson

      It’s seems that you and Maggie1965 are making some assumptions…who says it was a few hour or one-day-visit? Some people are more open with bathroom doors, don’t hold everyone to your own prudish behavior. There is no standard in our society, which is mixed with different cultures, behaviors, Yes, abuse happens in our society but not everything is abusive.

    • phooy on you

      The G-daughter is 4….she is innocent and would think nothing of going in to the bathroom while her G-pa was bathing. And it is absurd to think he would have stood up naked infront of his precious G-daughter….most likely he got out, wrapped a towel around himself to go and put on swim trunks, while her mother was putting the G-daughter in the swim suit trunks/bottoms. As for having swim trunks/suits in the house…why not?? I’ll bet this wonderful G-parent has many changes of clothes for when his G-dauhter visits. This is a wonderful sharing of a fun time bubble bath….nothing dirty, or perverted about it. LOOK at the happiness showing in their smiles and in their eyes. To have made such a beautiful memory is to show caring and love between them….you must not have had such a joyous relationship with your G=parent(s). Sad for you.

      • dyg70

        Put on a bathing suit and got back in some filthy bathwater? Yeah, right.

  • washbark

    I don’t think that the minister is perverted nor that he would ever cause harm to this child or any child. However, at no time, unless he needed assistance, should the granddaughter or daughter been presence while he was bathing. His explanation is also weak. I am not going to get out of the tub to put on swimming trunks nor wear swimming trunks while bathing so that a child can share the bathtub with me. Popo should have adamantly dismissed this audience while demanding privacey.

  • jane

    my question is how did she see in in the tub in the first place! If he was taking a bath the door should have been locked.

    • Aeva

      Since when do people who live alone lock the bathroom door? Some people don’t even have locks on their bathroom doors.

    • Lolly

      Maybe they weren’t in the house when he first began his bath? If he was in his own home, alone with his wife, why should the door HAVE to been locked–or even closed–when he was taking a bath?

      • MaggieJack

        Who said anything about a wife? Do you know that he has a wife, or, are you just assuming that he was married when this event happened?

        • Lolly

          Let me re-type: “If he was in his home alone OR with his wife, why should the door HAVE to have been locked, etc”. The point I was trying to make is that it is being presumed that the family was with him–in the house–when he began his bath. If they WERE NOT and he was alone or with his (presumed) wife, then he did NOTHING wrong by having the door opened and/or unlocked. That was the only point I was trying to make.

  • Greg

    It is only sick if its sexual. I do not think you can judge any bad intent from this picture.

  • facepalm

    Aw this hurt my heart. I’m all for ensuring the safety of our children, but this poor guy is a good granddad and is getting called the most despicable names. He and his family went about it the right way and got a lot of heat. I wish we didn’t live in a time where church officials have done such horrible things that we are immediately uneasy when we see something like this photo.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JOLNZ47LVKOO4XN4CAKN6ZJH4Y Funny Monkay!

    … Is someone trynna tell me they didn’t take a bath with their parents (or in this case guardian) when they were babes? I did with my mother, and that was just fine and even a pic was taken and was even put in a scrapbook. My mom still takes it out and shows everyone and everyone’s just gushes over it.

    Embarrassing to me, and I wish she would burn it, but there’s nothing essentially wrong with it.

  • Queen K

    I’m just wondering why would he let them in the bathroom in the first place???? What’s next potty time together ???? There is a time and a place for everything this was not it…

  • http://www.facebook.com/bemccfel.gabdesbra Bemccfel Gabdesbra

    NO comment, I’ll let the Lord work this one out. I hope people learn from this, don’t post everything that happen in your home on the internet… It may be innocent but people minds are not.

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  • Brittany

    I think its absolutely ridiculous that people think this is disgusting, clearly its your fault for not having a close family dynamic that has you assuming the worst.There is absolutely no difference between this and being in a swimming pool whatsoever. I have filled the tub up and let my child swim in it before as well.He was clothed, she was clothed, end of story. I doubt a mother( and i’m saying AS a mother) would willingly allow her child to get into a tub with someone she thought would do anything to her child especially since she was right there. The only thing that makes me feel sick to my stomach here is all you people ignorant of what a close family dynamic is like.

    • lucky

      ummmm retard,ur a mother,u let ur child watch a grown naked man take bath’s? then u should b investigated!!! this is not normal,that poor childs mother was probably molested by him as well,thats why she thinks it is ok,notice we dont hear anything from the father of this child,he is probably running to a divorce lawyer,as should ur husband if u think its ok to lrt ur children into a bathroom u know a grown man is bathing naked,people like u are responsible for the covering up and/or perpatration of child abuse,and btw play time in the tub? there were no toys in the tub,what were they playing with sitting on ‘popo’s’ lap? f@#kn wierdo’s!!!!!

      • http://twitter.com/char009twit Char

        Agreed!

      • http://www.facebook.com/theresagtorres Tg Torres

        The mother is grown; IF she had been molested by her father THAT would be more of a reason to not allow her daughter around him.

        I don’t get the openness of some families but I’ve known d@mn good families that were open with each other like that. My family and I never lived that way and I could never be comfortable with it myself but that DOES NOT mean that there is something wrong with them and their family!

        As for the father; for all we know he could be deceased or just plan absent.

        Grandpa might be the only positive male role-model that little girl has.

        • dyg70

          If the daughter were molested she might never have had any therapy for it and therefore be perpetuating the cycle.

    • Bewarned

      So he had time to get his swimming trunks, are you so sure he is not naked. Well he stood up went to get the swimming trunks , and never thought wait a minute this is creepy.

    • dyg70

      When you filled up the tub for your child to swim in it, you didn’t add bubbles, did you? This was a bath. No photographic evidence they were clothed, only his word after the fact. The fact that the mother didn’t see a problem means she’s sick, too. Sick family dynamic!

  • solinvictusnatalis

    Whats stupid is posting ones family pics online. You are stupid if you post your kids picture in public, A pedo will take a liking to it and stalk you down. Social media has dumbed down society

  • solinvictusnatalis

    And what family member thought it cool to post it on instagram? People are braindead.

  • stopthedrama

    And if it would have been her grandmomma???????

    • Aretha Redden

      Still would have been inappropriate.

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  • just sayin’

    In many other cultures family baths are the norm. Me, my younger brother, and my obachan (grandmother) took baths together on a regular basis. Nothing perverted about it. Americans have perverted minds and society. Where else is nudity so taboo and yet so wanted and sought after at the same time. Dress in risque clothing showing all but a few select places in public is fine but a grandpa and granddaughter playing in a bubble bath with shorts on is perverted? Twisted culture.

    • This is absurd

      They’re playing around with swimsuits in a tub. People need to stop adding their own perverted twist to innocent situations. All this hullaballoo is pretty messed up.

      • FlaEMT

        This story is a lot like an ink blot test. The reaction to it tells more about the viewer’s mindset than it does about the grandfather / granddaughter. It’s just plain sad that so many people seem to be fixated on molestation.

  • Blessing

    This particular scenario may not be bad since the mother took the shot. But with time, an act like this could be abused by several people whose minds are constantly abused by the media

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  • http://www.facebook.com/3edebrew Ernest Debrew

    I believe him. It was a mistake. You really have to be careful of what you say, do, and post online.

  • http://www.GreenDreamStayHome.com/ NeeNee Eco-Green

    Initially, this photo and title had my stomach turning. I too was ready to post angry, evil, hurtful thoughts about this situation. Now, his story sounds completely believable. I feel bad if this was truly innocent the problems he and his family are now facing. I do feel it’s rather weird and unusual. However, I understand how he could feel it’s okay. If it was a swimming pool we wouldn’t have a problem. I guess humans are just too picky, no one can see us in bra and panties, but a two piece bikini is acceptable. I just hope their story is true and they learn to tell her lil butt NO. That’s trully my problem now with this story. PPL afraid to deny their children stuff now days

  • Dae

    Uhhhh….she is sitting in his lap…..and not only that…..but who goes to visit their Popo in the bathroom while he is bathing? Inappropriate to say the least.

  • SexyBrownSuga

    -_- Some things just shouldn’t be posted online people, geez! Pictures in a swimming pool with others in visible swim attire, are pictures for posting; this one is not.

  • Walter Mink

    God it’s not like he raped anybody. She was totally asking for it.

  • Realallday

    my question is how was she in tha bathroom while he was taking a bath?!?! Taking sides but dont put yourself in tha position to be criticized.

    • Reallallday

      Not*** taking sides..

  • http://www.facebook.com/janelle.lemessy Janelle Lemessy

    my six yr old nephew bathes with me when ever the mood strikes him, as well as with his mother, So does my 5yr old niece. Are we perverts. At the end of the day, I am certain, they won’t have to pry into somebody’s room to see what a naked body looks like. They both will have a positive outlook on their own body image.

    • Ram

      Why are you bathing with a 6 year old? No ma’am.

    • http://www.facebook.com/misstruth.hurts MissTruth Hurts

      Creepy b!tch….*smh*

    • Aretha Redden

      Whatever

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    Even though we may have shared(I didn’t )the water ,that doesn’t mean another fam member was in at the same time. Besides being a perfect germ carrier for female private areas ,it is just morally unsound.Read Mark 7:21-23.(Bible) That says it all.Also Rom.13:14.Yet one would think better to post this on the web.Since his body is NOT seen,we don’t know what he has on.Mixing even washing clothes with fems and males is not a sound idea. Different germs due to activities of either.

  • Socratas

    Look, I understand there’s a possibility that this was totally, completely innocent, but growing up without a father and being countlessly molested by countless men, my world-view of men has been severely warped. It’s been my experience that the vast majority of men are nothing more than disgusting, horny, perverted assholes. I really wish I did have an example of a man in my life that would make this picture innocent, but alas, such is not the case. Maybe all the gross asses should change so the 5-10 innocent men in the world can stop getting such a bad wrap. lol Who am I kidding, huh?

    • lucky

      Can I buy u a drink ;)

  • xislndgurlx

    How does the granddaughter see him in the tub?? The door to the bathroom was open? This is some BS. That lil girl should have never been in the tub with her “papa”. A bathtub and a pool..no comparison.

    • Lolly

      why does his door have to be closed when he is bathing? How are we to KNOW that his daughter and granddaughter were IN the house with him when he first began his bath? Maybe it was just him and his wife in the house? Assumptions like the one that you and others are putting forth are what cause a lot of lives to be ruined.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/lacey.dadrey Lacey Dadrey

    A grown ass man does not need to be in a bathtub with a female child period, end of story. This is totally disgusting pedofile/inappropriate stuff. Where is the mother?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/author.tl.james Tl James

    AMEN @facebook-663830197:disqus – People think they have to POST EVERY DAMN THING! Some moments are private. You post something, you suffer the consequences. With all the abuse and begging from people who abuse children, it is good for people to take a stand. They have been many times that people would sit quietly. So if it is taken out of context, its the family fault! Don’t post it!

  • Ann

    So incredibly sad that such a harmless and adorable picture had to be blown so out of proportion. When I first saw the pic, the first thing that came to mind was “awwww”, then I immediately realized that in today’s sick and perverted society, people are going to misconstrue and sensationalize this picture.

    Why are people so offended and angry??? The man said the family was there and they were in swim trunks and the mom was there and took the photo so why all the hate??? I doubt if this were a case of abuse the family would have been dumb enough to post it on Instagram and Facebook, smh. These poor people posted the pic thinking it was an innocent sweet picture only to get skewered by the judgmental and hypocritical idiots out there who probably watch nasty porn and partake in all sorts of unorthodox behaviour behind closed doors.

    It was posted on a public forum, not sent through seedy websites and file sharing networks. What kind of world do we live in where a simple picture can be so terribly and horribly misinterpreted? Unfortunately people need to stop sharing so much since we live in such an effed up and perverted world and others have to go get a life and stop judging and assuming hurtful and slanderous things about people they don’t know about. All the while these same people will live next door to a child molester and not even take notice, smh.

    • dyg70

      What is sweet about a little girl sitting on an old man’s lap in a bubble bath? Um, hello! This is the child molester next door you are not noticing!

  • highroller2012

    Let not your good be evil spoken of.

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  • photonblaster

    Just a little creepy, OK, maybe it’s a lot creepy.

  • Mary

    In 1966 I was an LEO and got a call to handle a high school girl with a flasher. She had never seen a nude male in her life. She ended up with therapy. Next day he was back and did the same thing in front of another high school girl. When I got to see her after school she said to me I” just laughed and told him my little brother has a bigger one than you..” When I interviewed her with her parents present, she said we all have see each other without cloths on and it no big deal. I am really old now but growing up in the depression many families bathed together. The Japanese did it for hundred of years. What is natural to a person is how they were raised and in what part of the country or world you were raised in.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/scott.jacobs.3994 Scott Jacobs

    Leave the man alone. Some people have too much free time on their hands.

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  • Iam keepingitreal

    i am a christian… this is extremely wrong. There is no way I will go home to my parents home with my daughter and open up a discussion about Popo having a bath. If he is having a bath, he is having a bath…just simply confuse as to how a bathroom door is a window for an invitation for a party of grandkids etc. If Popo is a God-fearing man, God should have told him that this is WRONG!!!!!!

  • billionairegeorge@gmail.com

    This is what happens when we Christians delve into secular culture like Instagram, Facebook, etc the Devil and his worldly children will always seek to destroy you… Pastors need to stop trying to promote and glorify themselves and promote Christ Jesus only!

    • Renae Kissinger

      And yet, you’re on an internet forum… posting comments… under the name “Billionaire George”? Have a seat.

    • Lolly

      the preacher wasn’t the one to post the photo. A family member was.

    • dyg70

      No, this is what happens when old men let little girls sit on their laps in bathtubs with a big ol’ grin on their face.

  • jay77

    Wow!!!! People are truly sick in the head. That photo is completely wrong, bottom line. that grown man and the parents of that child should know better. I believe in the bible it says your children should not see you naked.

  • http://www.facebook.com/makhartley Ann Hartley

    For heaven’s sake, lighten up! Only the family who were present at the time of the photo have any basis for making judgements. If it was ok with them and it certainly looks ok with the children, it was probably ok. Y’know, when times were harder people frequently shared things like warm water as a matter of course. Leave it alone and leave it to the family!!

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  • this girl knows what she says

    I’ve never really bathed with my parents when I was small but I bathed with my cousins and sister and baby brother and my parents just watched US it was never anything big

  • DIVADCR

    Okay, am i feeling some kind of way bout this picture? Yes i am, do i have my own thoughts on it? Yes i do., but they’re mine and they’re my inhabitions as well, based on my life experiances so who am i to take those negative experiances and push them onto the way that this is definitely how someone else is living their life so beware? We have been doing this forever, we do it with everything from food to situations, the way one experiances something or how they are treated is not neccesarily how it happens for another, if someone was sexually abused and that abuse started in the tub, this does not mean it will happen this way for everyone., hell, some preists are molesting and have been forever do people just tear down the whole catholic structure by no longer sending your children to catholic school because it is a direct representation of who they are as a whole? Do we pull away from the electronic world because of hackers? And so on and so forth. some ask where the mother was well right there, as explained they were in trunks, and as for the people throwing scriptures out there and the lord said do not use my name in vain, i think this applies since the only thing that occured was in your minds, whats that say about you? If we want to go after something legitimate in nature to get attention of the people, let’s go for the one’s that are putting some serious stuff out there, i received an e-mail last week from someone who attempted to freind me, he’s 22 his name is lovey he had naked pictures of females as well as himself in the act with one, it was on facebook when it came time for me to use the pencil to show facebook what he sent, i could’nt because he was smart, he used his cell phone to somehow send the pics which negated the pencil so i could’nt show facebook to block him from doing this to others, these are the types of real things that should concern us, how would you like your daughters etc.. opening up that?

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  • Denise Jones

    If you stopped to put on swim trunks that implies a conscious of guilt. What happen to privacy and boundaries; there were too many people present during your bath and a camera to boot. There is a difference between a pool and a bathtub, the bathroom is suppose to be private. The actions to share a bubble bath with your 4 year old granddaughter while you both wore swim trunks (not seen in the picture) was inappropriate and showed a complete lack of judgement.

  • Karmic73

    Everybody is not perverted. Oddly enough the main ones molesting the kids nobody will ever pick up on that!! It damn sure wont be folks like these, just trying to be a family!! True, maybe it seems strange. But, I have seen weirder things in this society that people uphold. So folks should really take their foot off the gas with the assumptions.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gphilg Phil Ofthefuture

    CREEPY

  • Confused

    Sadly, society has messed up everything that could have possibly been viewed as innocent. Because he is a man of God, I give him the benefit of doubt; however, if they didn’t really have on swim-wear, this would be – by far – the sickest thing i’ve ever seen.

  • Rose Williams

    Wow! people are actually getting uptight over this photo? Does it bother people because it is a bath tub and there are bubbles? Or would you be equally upset if it were in a backyard swimming pool? SERIOUSLY?!?

    • Aretha Redden

      I am not upset. It just leaves room for someone with ill intentions that mean a child harm to say….oh I was just innocently sharing a bath with my kid. It is inappropriate bcuz it is a bathtub instead of a swimming pool.

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  • Barbara

    Keep your business private…who needs to know Pastor takes bubble baths?????????

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  • pervertedminds

    People are complaining about why they were in the bathroom in the first place. I’m a mother and have a close relationship with my family, if my daughter wants to use the bathroom she will go inside whether or not someone is in there showering or bathing. That could have easily been the case. Don’t you people have families? Its his grand daughter, and the man is wearing trunks covering his areas. Whats the difference between this and them swimming together in a pool.

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  • LMRuiz

    In other countries whole families bath together and they do not have the hang ups we have here. So many people are so puritanical here that other societies often wonder why Americans are so overly uptight!

    • Maggie1865

      What other societies do has nothing at all to do with American society. This is a non-sensical defense. Obviously, in every part of the world, culture and belief systems differ. There are places in the world where people do not cover any part of their body. This includes men, women, and children. In these places there is no such thing as privacy. So, would you suggest that we (Americans) adopt that cultural practice? I think not.
      Please keep in mind, the public did not post this picture of the Bishop and his granddaughter in a bubble bath together. And yes, concerned citizens should speak out about questionable actions done by another person in our society (and not someone else’ society).
      And this idea that people that frown upon the photo are ‘gutter’ minded, or perverts themselves, is just asinine. By the way, what’s wrong with some people being a puritan (if they so choose)? I didn’t know that having conservative moral practices was a ‘bad’ thing. And what’s “uptight” to some, is not “uptight” to others. So please, spare us of what other countries do and what they think. Seems mighty strange that people from other countries are willing to do almost anything to come to America.

      • Lolly

        Not so, MaggieJack. Haven’t you ever heard of the idea that America is an amalgamation of cultures. I’ll spare you by not giving you information in regard to what OTHER countries do. Instead, I’ll discuss things about AMERICA. In most big cities, there are ethnic enclaves within the big city (Little Italy, Little Tokyo, Little Liberia, Little Russia, Little Madrid etc.) which are nearly completely filled with people who live their lives in accord to how they lived life back in ‘the old country.’ Once–whilst waiting for the city bus in Austin–I met a man who had lived in Austin for TWENTY years and didn’t speak a lick of English. I found out this information about him because I happen to speak some Spanish, having been raised in Texas. He shopped at Mexican groceries stores, ate food prepared the way his momma did back in Mexico, etc. We also had grocery stores and restaurants geared to provide for people of Asian, Philipino, Middle Eastern and plenty from other “foreign”genetic pools. These people often kept to the culture of their ancestors. The idea that the culture ‘argument’ is nonsensical here in America is–in itself–nonsensical. Please keep in mind that–just because it is YOUR worldview–It does not automatically follow that it is the correct worldview or even the MORALLY CORRECT worldview. Just some food for thought, y’all.

        • MaggieJack

          Well thank you Lolly for your comment(s) on my post. Perhaps, you did not notice that I was responding to LMRuiz’ post, which states:

          “In other countries whole families bath together and they do not have the hang ups we have here. So many people are so puritanical here that other societies often wonder why Americans are so overly uptight!”

          In addition to LM’s post, there have been other posters who have made reference to what people in other COUNTRIES do as a society. So, I don’t know why you feel the need to respond to something that I was not addressing in my comments.

          I’m sure you know that this is an opinion forum. Therefore, anyone who has an opinion on the Bishop and his granddaughter’s photo in the bubble bath is free to voice their thinking on the photo and article. And that is exactly what I have done, and, will continue to do if I so wish. However, I make sure that I address what the poster is saying and (hopefully) why they are saying it. If the poster that I’m replying to is replying to another poster, I make sure that I read that poster’s comments before I formulate an opinion and write my opinion.

          Lastly, your last statement was unnecessary, since, I made no reference to my “worldview” or what I perceive is “morally correct”. Even if I did, based on what you said about other race/ethnic groups often holding on to their ancestors culture from the old country; whatever my “worldview” is, could be apart of my ancestors culture that I’m clinging on to. Right? Right.
          By the way, I am not opposed to rethinking an opinion that I have made after hearing other arguments on the subject, however, if I’m not convinced that my opinion is unreasonable, I hold to it. So, your argument does not change my own feelings on this topic of “culture” (Bishop Trotter’s photo). Subsequently, I stand by my post to LMRuiz.

          • Lolly

            MaggieJack,

            I wrote a whole response to your comment and then—of course—Word
            swallowed it whole and I will have to start over. That being the case, I’m going to just be
            right to the point—if I can be. I hope
            you know that ALL of my responses are meant with respect and without a single
            bit of malice or ugliness.
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            MaggieJack,
            You are correct that we all have our own opinion and
            have every right to keep it. I certainly
            would not and did not claim otherwise.

            I did–in fact–read all of your comment and the comment to which you responded before I responded to you. I also read all of the comments posted on the thread. My responses are 99% formed on
            what you wrote, not only in the post immediately preceding mine (in nest order) but also on the ones you wrote earlier in this thread (2, 5, 6, 9, 14, 16 days ago—just so you know to what I am referring). It is possible that I did not make the connection clear, but I was responding to you.

            Your comment about the argument being ‘nonsensical’ came across in a way which seemed as if you were telling her she was wrong/ridiculous/ignorant/insert whichever adjective
            you want here. It is possible that I misread your intent. I’m perfectly
            willing to consider that idea. My comment about how there are enclaves of ‘foreign countries’ all over the US was a way to present evidence that other countries CAN INDEED affect the way Americans behave and/or how they see the wrongness/rightness of their behavior. Our worldview is formed (and ever-changing because of it) by EVERYTHING we experience, whether negatively or positively. Yes, our worldview can be VASTLY different from that of our grandparents, but it can also be strikingly similar, depending on our situation.

            If our grandparents were raised in another country, then the way
            they raised our parents (who in turn raised us) is partially founded on the way THEY were raised in the other country. And our worldviews are also founded—partially—on the same thing. I was trying to put
            forth a reason why the behavior of people from other nations might very well have an effect on us.

            My last statement was completely necessary. I was responding to what I thought was you telling LMRUIZ that her thoughts were incorrect (aka nonsensical). I was also responding to your earlier posts and a few other posts by other people (and some hints in your earlier posts—comments you made in your original post on this thread) which were vilifying (you weren’t) the preacher for what they thought of as immoral behavior.
            So when I said: “Please keep in mind that–just because it is YOUR worldview–It does not automatically follow that it is the correct worldview or even the MORALLY CORRECT worldview”, I was referencing the nonsensical comments (aka correct worldview) and the comments blasting the preacher as someone who is “not God-fearing” and is “just
            plain sick!” (aka morally correct worldview). What I wrote was almost
            completely fueled by comments you made.

            I can understand the ideas you have been trying to put forth in your posts, by the way. I just disagree with them and that is perfectly fine. I just want you to understand that my ideas are not coming out of left
            field, having nothing to do with what you previously said.

            Now
            I’m done talking serious stuff. I wanted to say how cool I think your name is, partially because one of my nicknames in college was ‘LollyJack.’ My downstairs neighbors brought me pizza one night whilst I was at work and left it—and a poem containing the inaugural use of the name LollyJack—on my bed for me to enjoy when I arrived home. Anyway…

          • MaggieJack

            Thanks again Lolly for your reply to my comments. However, it seems that we have a “failure to com-mun-i-cate” (a famous line from the movie Cool Hand Luke) -smiles-.
            Lolly, I did not indicate that you were not responding to MY POST. I know you were doing that. I simply felt that you did not consider the fact that I was responding to LMRuiz’ post. Since you stated that you read all of my previous posts on this article/photo, and your response to me was also (in part) based on “hints” in comments that I made, I re-read my post history on this subject.
            I wanted to try and understand what I had said that would influence your post to me. I’m sorry Lolly, but I do not see anything in my comments that go beyond the question of the appropirateness of a grandfather taking a bath (bubbles or not) with his granddaughter (no matter the age). I m not the one who introduced ‘culture” into the discussion of this debate. I am simply responding to what other posters have stated on how culture plays a role in family bathing practices.
            To break my own rule of ‘sticking to the subject at hand’, I must say this: There are many people (and I’m sure, many posters) who know Bishop Trotter. Some know him on a personal level and many know him because of his community activism. He is a very high profile personality. So, much of what people have said is based on this factor, and not just what they read in this article. Perhaps you know him too, I don’t know.
            In my case, I could say what many would think are some very unkind things about the Bishop. However, this debate is about this article/photo. That’s what I’m limiting my comments to. And, I feel that my posts have been respectful of other posters and the Bishop; and I’ve put forth every effort to be objective in my comments addrssing the articel/photo.
            I’m sorry if you think I was disrespectful to LMRuiz, that was not my intent. But, you must understand, I feel very strongly in what I have posted on this subject and I’m not so easily knocked off of my “stump”, if I feel that what I say or think makes sense. So far ,”Lolly-Jack”, I’m standing still….smiles…
            Sounds like you had some really nice neighbors back in college! Nice. Well, It’s been a nice exchange Lolly-Jack. Be well my friend!

          • GodivaCNN

            Wow you are being a hypocrite because when you responded to my post you did not express an opinion you were asking me things that had nothing to do with what I posted therefore you felt you had the need to respond to something that I was not addressing in my comments ..ie I did not care whether or not he was a high profile pastor. You never made it clear how YOU felt, you wanted to pick apart MY opinion. Look, because you come from a home of filth where every move you and your family made was based on sexuality is unfortunate and very sad. A lot of others actually live in innocence with their families until they grow up and come across nasty people like you. Stop defaming this man and making your sick twisted fantasies the problem of others…go sit down somewhere and stop commenting on everyone’s OPINION. State yours and GO!

          • Maggie Rae

            I had planned to address your post to me. But, I decided to take a look at your comment history first. I’m so glad that I did, because now I know it would be a total waste of my time to address what you said to me. Instead, I suggest you go back to school and get your GED.

        • dyg70

          Regardless of subculture, anyone living in the United States is subject to the laws of the United States. Some parents have starved their children to death or denied them medical care until they died due to their religion. Even though religious freedom is protected by the US Constitution they face murder charges because we are supposed to protect vulnerable classes such as children. BTW, incest is a universal taboo! (99.9% of the world frowns upon it.)

          • Lolly

            I agree with everything you said, DYG, including the part about incest. I don’t think there is any kind of proof whatsoever that incest occurred in this situation, however. Many of the responses formulated in these comments seemed to be based on the idea that it has been proven to be so. If that is what this photo was proven to have shown, I’d be disgusted, too. However, the events that the photo shows are not proof that something as disgusting as incest has occurred. There probably is a very innocent explanation. I cannot imagine that another member of the family would be there taking photos if there were some nefarious explanation for the events pictured above. Just my two cents worth…

          • Maggie Rae

            Thank you dyg70! Too many people want to throw in all kinds of “logic” that just happens to be illogical in explaining why there is nothing wrong with this picture. They seem to think it’s up to each individual to “write” their own rules in society. That would be fine if it made sense, but it doesn’t make sense because in a court of law, we cannot pull out our own ‘Book of Laws” to defend an action that is unlawful.

            I grew up in a place where there were no traffic signals, no speed limits, and no stop signs. Heck, we didn’t even have any law enforcement people in our little town. The closest law enforcement agency was (and still is) 17 miles away! The only difference now and when I grew up is, they finally put up a few stop signs. But, do you think I can just ignore all of the traffic laws in the place that I now live in, just because I grew up without them?

            Well, I think I’ll try ignoring the red lights and stop signs the next time I drive my car. When I get pulled over, I’ll just tell the officer that “in my culture” we don’t have traffic lights and stop signs, etc. This may not set well with some people; but, who are they to tell me what’s right and what’s wrong? Right?

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  • Real Talk

    I agree that you don’t have to share these kind of pixs, but at the same time it clearly shows how all innocents are gone from most people and only wickedness in mind along with thoughts, it’s just really sad that these thing rub off on our children and they feel the need to have the wrong thoughts and actions about everything.
    It’s just an a nice family that is bonding unlike a lot of family these days

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002826430103 Joy Madison

    everyone gonna have there own opinion about this and opinions is like ASSHOLE EVERY BODY HAS ONE….so it makes no sense that now a days get your mind out the gutter people there are real people out there that really doing bad things to kids and every body worried about this.

  • T.S.

    Regardless of what they had on this doesn’t look right and to share it on the Internet is KRAZY! Swim trunkst and trunks or not..a full grown man should not be in a BUBBLE bath with a little girl. QUESTION: (1) Why is everyone in the bathroom when you are taking a bubble bath? (2) What ever happened to telling a child no when something is wrong? (3) You had to exit the tub to put on the swim trucks so how was this done since everyone is in the bathroom?
    This sounds really KRAZY and like a lie because first he said he was IN THE TUB and then he WROTE he put on trunks and her swim trunks. What did your family think?? I believe Child Protective Services should still investigate this story to confirm it’s validity.

  • Pat

    I’ll trust the bishop when he says both he and the child were covered and that the whole thing was innocent. However, we all must be very careful today considering the huge issue of sexual abuse toward children. Even a false charge could destroy lives. This man of God needs to be wise and know that the most innocent of comments, photos, etc. may go viral and be misunderstood. We ALL must be wise today.

  • Frank Lapore III

    Nothing at all wrong with that She wanted to enter the inviting water and grandpa said come on in baby! And? What’s wrong with that? Its the Pope who is under investigation for his involvement in the rape of over 200 boys and I not only say Amen to him going to prison for life I am a Catholic.
    We do need to clean up the Pentecostal’s because the are all full of shell games a Phuk crap but not for this. Here we have a rich man who has conned people out of millions teaching lies and you want to cry because his baby girl jumped in the tub and played around in the water of a large shell shaped bath tub? Get real.

  • Frank Lapore III

    I used to bath with uncle Rico but when I saw his eyes lingering upon my Privates I chose not to get into the tub with him anymore. Come to turn out in later years he was the manager of a gay bar called Nut Bush City limits on Harlem Ave in like Oak Park, Chicago.
    What I did to that man? I don’t know but his is a waisted life of drugs and homo sexual sex he no longer baths and lives in a trailer court near Ohara airport with a man he calls lovie. OMG if you see him hide the kids.

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  • http://twitter.com/char009twit Char

    The mother was obviously ignorant! Whether or not she was molested by this person or not makes all the difference; if she was molested by him as a child, then she is now old enough to know better. Whether he apologized to her for his wrongdoings (if there were any) or not is irrelevant. Also, this could’ve been an innocent occurrence and everyone thought that it was “cute” to let the world see (obviously begging for attention) and look what it got them.Or maybe the mother’s “inner-soul” was crying out to let the world see what happened to her, through her daughter. Either way, the mother was clearly wrong for allowing her daughter to go into a bathtub with the grandfather. Bathing is for “bathing” to get yourselves clean/not for sharing your unclean skin with someone else. Taking a picture of it, doesn’t justify anything, but simply encourages the act! What else does the mother allow her daughter to do? Imagine what happens when the daughter is unsupervised and become maturer. You decide.

  • http://twitter.com/char009twit Char

    P.S. As you can see from picture, the child’s shoulders are not yet wet. Therefore, she must have just gotten into the tub with “the” grandfather. Who knows how much longer the child was there and who knows whether or not the child was left alone with “the” grandfather afterwards. Who knows?

  • oblivion328

    Pedophilia is the new communism in America.

  • sharon

    As a Bishop, he should abstain from even the appearance something that could be evil spoken of. As victim myself, I find it disturbing. So you see, everyone will have a different view on this. however, consider the times in which we live, this sexual abuse among our children is an epidemic in our society. Judgement must begin in the house of God first! This was meant to be uncovered.

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  • wallflower05

    So he got out the tub to put on his trunks and get back in the tub?? I agree with the writer who asked how the little girl even got in the tub, I also agree that this is just the nature of some people’s relationships … but working on the social services field I also know that people have to practice discretion with the things they do. Children are impressionable and him holding the role of a pastor should just not engage in certain things …. just my opinion!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/mikekellyiniowa Mike Kelly

    So would most of you think this is ok if it was a boy instead of a little girl? Perverted minds would say no but my dad took me to the gym and all the men showered together….naked! i know we live in a different society by I would take my grandson to the gym and do the same thing.

  • LADYP

    As a bishop, he should know better, in this day I trust no one, you people believe what you want, why not drop your grandchildren off to visit Trotter, since you trust him so much. Prove it.

  • CandieLove

    i think this picture is wrong in many ways i dnt care wat the relationship is there is no way a lil qurl shud be in the bath tub wit a man its just aint rite so wat if she had shorts on wat about him ? i wud never let my own dauqhter be in the tub with her father !!!! this is jus sick and anybody who think its okay its sick too

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  • Brian

    Dude has some strong genes, his grand daughter looks JUST LIKE him!

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjean51 Cooldude Rowell

    THE PREACHER IS CRAZY TO BATH WITH ANY KID WHAT THE HELL

  • http://www.facebook.com/dumasjean51 Cooldude Rowell

    THATS SAD AND THE MOTHER I CRAZY TO WHAT KIND OF PREACHER WILL DO THAT SICK SICK.

  • Bossladii

    Anyone notice that the little girl’s “swimsuit” ties aren’t showing..Not to say they don’t exist…but most toddler swimsuits aren’t strapless..I am thinking she probably doesn’t have one on, and the swimsuit story was fabricated.

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  • That’s right

    Poor judgement by all involved. And by the way, if I’m taking a bath you better believe no one is coming into my room. You’ll wait out in the rest of the house until i come out fully dressed.

  • Kareem

    In a pool, maybe a hotub but bathtub WOW! At a certain age kids are to old to take baths or showers with ADULTS PERIOD. The whole swimsuit theory is damage control. All you people can say it’s harmless and you grew up doing this but that doesn’t make it right. As a parent you can be under protective but never over protective.

  • tony

    seems someone took the pic i dont think he’s that dumb to post something he know
    aint legal, and there’s somethings u just dont do and that’s one of them

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ken-Johnson/100000481681882 Ken Johnson

    However innocent it may be, it was still not appropriate. At the very least, it desensitizes the little girl to what is and is not appropriate behavior for her and a potential approaching bad actor. The majority of girls who are molested are victimized by a family friend or family member. If one thinks this is appropriate, you may be leaning more towards “Little House” than the real world. Parental naivety is the pedifile’s key to unlocking the the wall of safety one believes they have built around their loved ones.

    • KayKay

      absolutely! pedophiles are almost always family members and family friends. who else is a young child around??? they prey on ignorance and innocence of ppl such as these commenting that there’s nothing wrong with it…wake up ppl.

  • Iza Koon

    WHO is a NI^^ER VIRGIN—-
    The THREE YEAR OLD that can RUN FASTER THAN A NI^^ER PREACHER!!!!!

  • Horrible

    It does not look right and as a preacher he should know better, but apparently he don’t so what else is he ignorant about?

  • ChildPlease

    The Bible says to shun the appearance of evil (1 Thess. 5:22). Even if this was innocent, it does not look good. The child’s mom had every right to discourage it. We live in a different age now!! Sorry some of you think it’s cute, BUT IT’S NOT!!!

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  • KayKay

    …or are former abuse victims themselves who KNOW this is some nasty bull such as myself. its ppl like you who wont listen, dont want to hear what goes on in the tub w/ grandpa, what uncle does while giving your kid rides to the store for candy, what daddy does creeping in your kids room at night… pedophiles are always family members and family friends. who else are young children around? do young children go build their own social circles outside their school yards? think ppl, think. know the signs. watch for them. pedophilia is real and the creepy pedophile will not be a boogeyman on the other side of town. it will be your best friends. it will be your brother. even your mother.

  • KayKay

    pedophiles are always family members and family friends. who else are
    young children around? do young children go build their own social
    circles outside their school yards? think ppl, think. know the signs.
    watch for them. pedophilia is real and the creepy pedophile will not
    be a boogeyman on the other side of town. it will be your best friend.
    it will be your brother. even your mother.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.kays.7 Michael Kays

    Apparently the poster of the pic never heard of the saying “a picture is worth a thousand words”. What an un-freaking-believably stupid thing to do. It’s the year 2013 girl! BTW, they’re ain’t no swimsuit top on that little girl.

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  • el

    This is simply a picture of this man posing with his grand daughter in the bathtub. Nothing more. This is not a picture of him physically touching her, his body parts exposed, her looking upset by pain, or anything else innapropiate. If all you people who have problems with this picture, is it just because they are in a bathtub? Get real people….

    • dyg70

      You can’t see underneath the surface of the water. She’s clearly on his lap based on her position in the photo. Ew!

  • STRESSFREE

    Sounds/look innocent to me, as a man thinketh so is he

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OOLKW6I36LK4KTSFFBYPBD4PUE Maria

    I am a 53 year old woman and i would not allow such behavior in a tender time in which we are living.Sexualabuse begins when one take a child to sit between the legs or on your lap,come on wake up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nancy.wiley.121 Nancy Wiley

    That was wrong and God is watching you and so are other people, because you put it out there

  • kelly

    My mom took baths with us when we were babys naked, But when the child is at a certain age were they can see and know some things and he’s naked in the tub and he’s a man and she little a girl no!! It doesn’t seem right!!! I’m mean he could atleast put swimsuit on come on!!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/richard.vandiamondsworth Richard Vandiamondsworth

    The same idiots upset at this REelected tyrant obama. STFU, you’re not smart enough to judge anything or anyone.

  • Preacher’s kid

    The only time its appropriate to bath with your grandchildren, trunks or no trunks, is when you are lost in the rain forest and you have no choice.

  • Chisholm

    Peoople stop with facebook twitter etc. duh

  • morpheousx

    OK, i would understand if he was naked and the little girl was naked but they both had on swimming trunks. So its really innocent, i mean would people have said the same, if they were in a pool with trunks? No, they wouldn’t, so why are people fussing, because they are both in a tub with swimming trunks?

    She’s 4 for crying out loud, a 4 year girl old can be seen by family members, topless.

  • morpheousx

    OK,
    i would understand if he was naked and the little girl was naked but
    they both had on swimming trunks. So its really innocent, i mean would
    people have said the same, if they were in a pool with trunks? No, they
    wouldn’t, so why are people fussing, because they are both in a tub with
    swimming trunks?

    She’s 4 for crying out loud, a 4 year girl old can be seen by family members, topless.

    I also feel, that most of these judgements are from white people, we all know as black people, whites always judge us and our actions, being they think we are immoral and without decency.

    I’m positive that if this grand father and grand daughter were white, it would be seen is a different light by white people but because the people pictured are black, the projection is negative and therefore, judgement is passed.

    I am just saying what they will never say or admit too, things all always different, depending on what race the person is in America.

    • Lolly

      Your comment is a ridiculous statement. People of all races–if they are educated and not ignorant and didn’t have their parents teaching them racist offal–know that all people stand at the foot of the cross and that it is a person’s behavior and not his color which makes him racist/judgmental.

      Also, Just for your information: DaTruth4liars is against the preacher. PhiloftheFuture is against the preacher. CooldudeRowell is against the preacher.. Nancy Wiley is against the preacher.

      Mike Kelly is FOR the preacher. Anne Hartley is for the preacher and Scott Jacobs is for the preacher. Each group has people of only the same color. Guess which is which? You are a racist.

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  • Nana

    i agree with what some of you have said, ppl are way too addicted to the social netwerking thingy, that everything the do needs to be ot there. but at the same, its pure stupidity to assume that man is a monster for beng in a bubble bah withr his grandaughter.. how many of us have been bathed by older relatives in our youths? what an ignorant world we live in..

  • DaTruth4Liars

    idgaflyingf if they had on trunks there is no way my daughter is getting in the tub with a grown @ss man. the ish just don’t look right or sit well with me. he should have gotten his butt out and then went to play wit her. f all that playing in the tub crap!

  • YVONNE

    SORRY WITH ALL THAT IS GOING ON TODAY WITH CHILDERN ,YOU DO NOT POST A PICTURE OF OLD MAN AND LITTLE GIRL IN BUBBLE BATE . IT DON;T LOOK CUTE.

  • Toby Henry

    30 years ago this would have just been a cute photo in an album seen only by family and close friends and nobody would have ever suggested that there was anything wrong with the picture. I feel bad for the clergyman having to deal with all this slander but really this is a photo that should have only been seen by family.

  • Adrian Carpenter

    Social Media is ruining people lives, mainly because said people dont know how to use social media correctly. In this case, this private moment was probably best kept private, seeing as how sick people can be when they assume.

  • Jacqueline

    I don’t see anything wrong happening here. People should not be jumping on this grandpa’s case. When I was a 4 year old I would bath/shower with my mom or dad or brother nothing weird about showering/bathing together at that age. When I was staying with my aunt I would take bubble baths with my cousins and we would have a blast playing together. My aunt even had a tea party in the bubble bath with us once with us all wearing swimsuits. Heck at that age half the time when I was staying with cousins we would run around naked in the rain or under the sprinkler. Nothing inappropriate ever happened just a close loving family having innocent fun together.
    If I got scared at that age I would go crawl into bed to cuddle with mom and dad too. OMG call the police!

  • Cay James

    Yeah and that same mother who didn’t think that there was anything wrong with allowing this would be the same one that wanted people to pity her when it came out that this man used this as a stepping stone with this kid to go further than this. Some of you people are so completely naive about how predators work that there’s no wonder that they get away with what they do.

    Putting her daughter in a bathtub with ANY MAN – Grandfather or not is setting up a dangerous mentality in this little girl (now she’ not going to think anything of it if this man wants to do it again WITHOUT her mother) and something that her mother should’ve known better than to do.

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  • rocklesson86

    I took a bath with my parents and my parents bathed me until I was 8. That is when they felt I was old enough to bathe myself. I see nothing with this.

  • Anita Varrassi

    this entire picture would have been changed and not as many people would find fault if the little girl was in fact in a FULL bathing suit. it states that the grandfather and the little girl put on trunks but shes 4 why doesn’t she have some sort of top on. if we could visably see her in a bathing suit it would be a whole new pic.

    as for people who say its the same as someone using a hot tub or a swimming pool who would have a 4 year old running around top less!

    I agree this is just one of those private pics that shouldn’t be shared on the net. (kind of taking a pic of your toddlers first poop in the toilet, most people take a pic but no one wants to log onto their facebook and see this pic!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NU7FI4J7OBEF6VC5C6CGQDA2NY Paul Lewis

    There are plenty of people (me included) of themselves as little children in a bubble bath smiling for the camera somewhere in the family photo album. There is nothing wrong with this picture. How you people gonna get pissed at this is unbelievable when you got commercials of naked babies streaking across the camera for the rest of America to see is beyond comprehension. Stop being morally high and mighty hypocrites and get over it. It’s just a picture. It’s not showing anything inappropriate. And if you came from a large family complaining about this, you are even BIGGER hypocrites, because you know you had to take a bath with other siblings just so your parents can afford to keep the water on.

    • MaggieJack

      Nope, not true for all large familes. I am from a family of 11 children, and we all lived in the same house with both of our parents. At no time did we take baths together. Too, there is a big difference in children (siblings) around the same age bathing together, and a four year-old female child bathing with her grandfather. Sorry my friend, but I do not see the comparison you’re making between naked babies in T.V. (or print) commericals, and the photo of the minister and granddaughter in a bubble bath together; no matter how cute it may look to some people. And, in my opinion, it’s more than the picture in question here. It’s also the explanations that the mother of the child and the minister offered that guides the opinions of some people too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sarah.griffiths.397 Sarah Griffiths

    people, you obviously do not understand 4 year old kids. My son thinks nothing at all of nudity, only in the US are people such ridiculous prudes. In other cultures, adults and children bathe naked together and no one thinks anything of it. And not to mention, if you have a 4 year old, you have to know very well “how they saw the grandpa in the bath in the first place!” They are very precocious and they don’t understand privacy very well. Aside from that, all you have to see is the little girl’s face to know that there is nothing disturbing happening. I am familiar with sexually abused children- they aren’t smiling and laughing while it’s happening. So please, people, don’t look for perversity everywhere. Perverts are the ones you never suspect, they are all about secrecy and privacy. A true pedophile would never have allowed this picture to be taken or posted. The fact that it was speaks to the innocence of it more than anything else.

  • MusiccisuM

    Leave this man alone! Geez… there are molesters out there finding new victims each day. Focus on catching them, not something as ridiculous as this. COME ON PEOPLE! WAKE UP!

    • MaggieJack

      This picture of the Bishop and his granddaughter in a bathtub together has provoked alot of public interest. That tells me that many people do not think the concern about this story is ricdiculous. However, I agree with you. There is no shortage of child molesters out there, and I believe people are just as concerned about keeping our children safe from them as well. But, this doesn’t mean that this story should be ignored either.

  • Opinionated

    This is inappropriate on so many levels. That lil girl should not be in the tub with no old man, I don’t care who it is!

  • http://twitter.com/NJWedPlanner SamanthaRenee Events

    Ummm how would the child see you in the tub to want to get in?? Why is she in the bathroom while you’re taking a bath? Nasty I doubt he had on trunks and she had on anything too!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/nakisha.johnson.96 Nakisha Johnson

    Um, I have to disagree with those saying there is nothing wrong with this. Even if this man was not violating this little girl, why would the little girl see him in the tub in the first place, and he put on swim trunks after the little girl wanted to get in. So, this means he had his naked self in the same tub water that he put his granddaughter in and then had her sitting on this lap. You just don’t do things like this, let alone with bubble bath and the child sitting on his lap. Yes, he may have had good intentions, but this does look extremely weird and unusual.

  • kuroi.shishi@yahoo.com

    First we as Parents supposed to be able to tell our child NO when their wrong or inappropriate…no matter how much they cry..the daughter obviously cant tell her lil daughter NO when wrong and inappropriate..but Preacher Common Man you did n think this was a BAD idea..well id think twice bout taking advice from you..im jus say n

  • kuroi.shishi@yahoo.com

    The Bottom line is Grown men, Family or not Dont TAke Baths or Showers with Kids Period..im not even talk n post n it online but PERIOD..creepy

  • Natasha

    Is he related to Harry Potter?

  • GodivaCNN

    This is terrible and not a testament to whats wrong with the pastor but whats wrong with the people who thought this was wrong. I use to be in the bath with my parents naked!! I was never molested. Our society has perverted nudity and perverted children. SMH

    • MaggieJack

      The question is this: In your opinion, is the pastor right because he is a pastor? What if he was not a high-profile pastor, would he still be right? Are the large number of people who have expressed this act as inappropirate wrong because you used to bath naked with your parents? If so many people make/made a practice of bathing with their young children, grandchildren, and nieces and nephews, why don’t we see more pictures posted on social media?

      I see pictures of family events, pictures of cute little kids doing the ‘darnest things” from being asleep in church to showing off their clowning skills. But I’ve never seen any pictures of kids and parents/grandparents in a shower or bathtub together (not even a dry bathtub).

      My mother used to whip us (her children) with a switch. We didn’t think that she was abusing us either, but, according to today’s societal parenting practices, whipping a child with anything is considered abuse. So, if Mrs. Z. was raising us now (her children) CPS would put all eleven of us in foster care, and my dear mother would be looking through steel bars. And keep in mind, my mother, we children, our father, or any one else thought she was abusing us. But do I think it is ok for parents to whip their children with a switch now? No, I do not, it doesn’t matter what Mama did to me and my siblings.

      My point is, just because you think the Bishop did nothing wrong, based on your own personal family experiences, does not answer the question at hand: Is what Trotter did appropirate or not?

      • GodivaCNN

        What I typed had nothing to do with the person of controversy being a pastor. I am a person who notices like everyone else that anyone no matter what robe they choose to hide behind can be a dangerous predator..so lets drop that. A little confused on what you are actually asking… if this is a question of whether it was appropriate to post publicly I would personally not do it because that should be a private family moment, in my opinion. Based on my own personal family experiences I know that bathing with your children/grandchildren is not something that should incite fear or accusations of pedophillia. What he did as far as allowing HIS grandchild to jump in a bubble bath is NOT inappropriate. If we are discussing whether or not to post this for the world to see is a different story. Your analogy of getting your butt whipped is ridiculous because people still beat their children and just like pastor post it all, people get caught when it becomes public AND keep in mind its not a crime for you to bathe with your children, it is to whip that butt. Just because the government begins to regulate certain behavior or people become sick enough to demonize innocent occurrences does not mean that it stops occurring or that it should. People are wrong to make assumptions that can tarnish an innocent man’s reputation if they see something beyond reasonable doubt that can confirm he is a pedophile…then of course they have every right to say and type what they want. I don’t believe in accusing a man like that publicly in forums where his grandchild can grow up and see the defamation.. THAT IS WRONG. Telling him to take it down because its offensive or not appropriate..Whatever..OKAY. But to state defamatory comments that states he is a pedophile for this is pure evil and absolutely inappropriate.

        • Maggie Rae

          Then what was your reason for posting? Did you read the article? Did you read your own post? Did you read my post? If you are confused, it’s because you didn’t take the time to read, and, think about what you read before commenting. If you had taken the time to read and understand what I wrote, you would see that I did not call the pastor any names. Period. You’re the one who is assuming that I’m saying the man is a pedophile. What I’m about to say now is insulting, and I mean it to be insulting: Based on the content of your post, I now see why most newspapers and most magazines are written at an 8th Grade Reading Level.

    • dyg70

      So you felt/saw your father’s penis brushing against you in a bathtub and don’t think that’s odd or uncomfortable?

  • Intelligent Thinker

    No normal grown man bathes with his 4 year old grandchild – this man is definitely some type of pedophile bastard. And who’s to say he’s telling the truth about having swim trunks on????!!! He could tell the media anything to deflect from the horrendous nature of this picture. He should be ashamed of himself, and he needs to be investigated. This picture is DISGUSTING.

  • MaggieJack

    “Horrified….. Shocked” ? Really? I’m shocked that the Bishop’s reaction was ‘horror’ and ‘shock’. And he says the “public outcry has hurt his family”? Really? Well the public did not post his photo, someone in his family did. So, why blame the public for something that he and his family are responsible for? When I was a little kid one of my sisters would do something that was wrong. But this poor child would always blame me, and my mother or father would scold me for my dear sister’s actions. Now, who was wrong, my sister or me?

  • http://www.wegotkidz.com/ Kesha of We Got Kidz

    This was more than likely just a case of poor judgement, but this is what kills me —> “He said his family came to visit him at his home. His granddaughter saw
    him in the tub and after begging to get in with her ‘Popo’…” How and WHY would his granddaughter see him in the tub at all? Lock your door. Tell her to get out! The fact that you were cool with your granddaughter, or anyone else for that matter, seeing you in the tub is a little suspect. I’m just sayin’…

    • http://www.wegotkidz.com/ Kesha of We Got Kidz

      …And also – what sort of grown man takes bubble baths?? lol. Maybe a salt soak… but a full on BUBBLE bath? Suspect.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dahater.washington DaHater Washington

    This is how a lot of kids get molested by a relative and they are not sure what is going on. Because the relative is someone the kid trust. Please don’t allow this to happen to your children. What message is this sending to the child how will she understand what is inappropriate touching.This is WRONG and the mother is at fault also.

  • u know it’s true

    I agree Iam Sapphire. If you look at the picture it looks as if they are both naked, we (the public) have no idea they have swim wear on, only the family would know that. We need to be more private in our lives and not be so open in our personal lives. Everybody jumps on the social media train and many passengers should just get off. If only everyone would.

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  • http://twitter.com/TerrillCharming Terrill S. Charming

    This situation is awful. The photo should have remained private. This is a new day and age. Its not a time of reality, its a time of perception. Be more careful.

  • http://twitter.com/TerrillCharming Terrill S. Charming

    Why the hell wasnt his bathroom door locked? Furthermore, this behavior being defended by his church speaks volumes to their morals. If you’re okay with this, go ahead and allow your daughter to take a bath with a grown man.

  • robyn

    i honestly think he meant no harm but it is a little disturbing knowing his penis is only a few inches away from her.. i’m praying he has on swimming trunks..

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  • Houseguest

    As innocent as the finally thought it was, it’s inappropriate for the world to see the pic with all the sexual molestation of kids going on these days.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Darlene-Thecolaratlady/100000275763531 Darlene Thecolaratlady

    And? So?

  • Kory Green

    I’m upset, because if this was a little girl and her mother or grandmother, I doubt there would be much outcry. Why do people defer to women, but are instantly suspicious of men, as if women can’t and don’t sexually abuse children?

    • Intelligent Thinker

      If it were a woman I would say its equally disgusting!!! NO ADULT SHOULD BATHE WITH A CHILD, IT’S JUST THAT SIMPLE. Children are little but they are still people too!!! They should be respected; NOT forced to see their parent’s private parts. if you don’t get that, I feel sorry for you.

  • Jen Turner

    The only mistake that was made was this photo being put on the internet for the WORLD to see and judge negatively based on a picture! If the mother would have been at all concerned of her father being in the tub with her daughter do you really think she would have so easily allowed it? If he’d ever molested her as a child do you really think she’d allow him to do it to her child and THEN allow it to be put online for the world to see? There is something wrong with you ppl always wanting to take the innocent little things and distort them into perversion! Get your minds right!

  • Speaking my mind

    I’m not accusing him of being a child molester but come on it’s certain things you just don’t do. I have two boys of my own and love them dearly and tell them I love them each and every day. But take a bath with them I don’t think so you can show your affection in other ways certain things are just inappropriate and as adult we have to be the logical thinkers for our children weather if it’s a grandchild or not. And to post it on-line is crossing many lines.

  • MrzD

    So he got out of the tub to put on swimming trunks when they decided to put the baby in the tub. Truth about actions is that they speak louder than words said after the fact.

  • http://twitter.com/lia_trane Lia Trane

    Honestly my opinion on this issue is those who support the bishop bathing with his granddaughter are obviously perverted pedophiles themselves and thinks it’s ok and those who don’t support it are defintely taking a stand against it simple as that because we are living in the last days now and people are all about calling right wrong and wrong right so of course.So it does not surprise me that you will have mixed responses concerning this bishop and his granddaughter taking a bath together and thats why prayer is needed constantly on so many levels and the situation do needs to be investigated because you never know what anybody is capable of personally on my behalf.I will not choose to rush to judgment but nevertheless that picture is not a good look that’s all i am just saying and shame on all you getting on this blog going back and fourth with this uncalled foolishness on this matter this is a innocent four year old little girl we are talking about andher mom is the one who took the picture so although i am not saying she is at fault but i would question her motive for allowing her daughter to take the picture in the first place as well as allowing the child to be crucified on the cross traumatizing that baby in everyway so lord help i am praying for her also.When we know that were living in a imperfect world and it’s not uncommon for humanbeings to be sexually molested by their family members,friends,strangers,enemies so we can’t act like this is not possible of happening all we can do is pray and know that god is soon to return end of story…

  • star

    In todays society things like this just can’t happen. There are so many off the wall ppl out here today that it has made being innocent questionable. I believe this was harmless but you can’t do this kind of thing anymore ppl have made living almost a crime. Peace to you and I hope everything is good now.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/micah.backstrom Micah Backstrom

    What a lot of people are forgetting is that the mother took the picture! I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t do that if she knew there was even a chance that her daughter could get molested.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chenelle.scott Chenelle Scott

    How stupid of his daughter to jeapardize her own father’s reputation…ppl can be so naive, you just don’t share everything.. The dept of Child Services could easily make a case out of this..

  • http://www.facebook.com/beverly.durant.1 Beverly Durant

    REALLY PREACHER, DO YOU READ THE NEWSPAPER, INTERNET. CHILDREN ARE CONSTANTLY BEING RAPE, MOLESTED AND GOD KNOWS WHAT ELSE BY FRIENDS, FAMILY MEMBERS AND YOU THINK THIS IS OKAY? MOM YOU SHOULD BE ASHAME AND THIS LITTLE GIRL TAKEN AWAY. THERE ARE NO JUSTIFICATION. HE NEED TO STOP TRYING TO CONVINCE US. ONLY A SICK SOB WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

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  • http://www.huglifesaints.com/ R.I.P. Fatt Kidd

    The comment I’m about to make can be applied to any news article.

    If you read into a topic with the mindset of “we didn’t do that in my life time so you shouldn’t do it”, you will never learn anything about life and you will forever toss things you don’t understand into the “crazy people/devil worshiper” pile.

  • PopPop Tyrone

    I am a 75 year old poppop and I have a bunch of great granddaughters and there is no way under God’s green earth would I have allowed or been associated with that request coming from anyone! PERIOD. I am a Christian who has preached the Word of God and there is a thought called the appearance of impropriety…DUH!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/Foreverlc71 Luis Roman

    Where the HELL is the straps to her bathing suit he claims she had on??? A 4 year old has a strapless bathing suit? – I understand some people bath with there kids, i’m not saying he did anything wrong, but the story is B.S. which means he know he need to lie, so he know he wrong.

  • Majin Buu

    I agree, if you look at the picture there are no staps on the girls shoulders or around her neck. So I highly doubt she has on anything.

  • Majin Buu

    straps

  • http://twitter.com/lorileeky Lori Lee

    Children don’t need to see adult private parts…so hopefully he had his trunks on as said but who knows.

  • Reekz

    The only people who see this as vile are those with dirty minds! to me this looks completely harmless. I understand the picture shouldnt of been posted online. Ive got pics of me and my daughter in the bath aint nothing wrong with that!

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  • Kenneth Hayes

    Wow not everything needs to be shared online. People will take an innocent moment that was captured and make it so negative. The family member who posted the picture, bad sense of judgemnt.

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  • snicka

    I tell you what. People can have whatever opinions they want. I’m a mom and I am very close with my children, having breast fed them all. Sometimes when I make a bath for myself, my 3 and 7yr old come piling in. I only think it’s a big deal when you make it one, or if the kids are way too old. Mine don’t personally pay attention to anything but playing with boats in the bath with mom.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/anisa.boodoo Anisa Boodoo

    how in the world , you bathing naked and daughter walks in ? then sends her daughter? this is not a swimming pool

  • I_am_right

    I am shocked that so many people are defending this picture, innocent or not. Whether he molestedher or not it is extremely inappropriate and I hope children’s’ services investigated. Molesters ease their way into molesting kids with “innocent” touching. This girl is old enough to be curious, ask questions and even to touch back but not old enough to know any better or show signs of distress. Today they bathe together, next they sleep naked together, then the touching and who knows what else if not. Her grandfather should be looking out for not encouraging actions, such as bathing with a grown man that could lead to her being hurt by someone.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/semper.fidelis1 Anthony Carter

    People comment on what they see. Why would such a picture be posted anyway. I also think it is out of good character to post such a picture. It doesn’t explain what you are saying but gives way to the conclusion of what it looks like. Be more careful how you represent as a man of God.

  • Wunam

    interesting how the human mind thinks even if they did not have trunks on her mom took the picture and why would a mother who did not trust her father allow her four year old to bathe with her dad real talk every body is not a child molestor or pedophile some men have genuine love and nurturing sides to them and it does not cross their minds to molest a child ..my father and grandfather used to do my hair get me dress for school and never I mean never touched me in the wrong way and would kill another negro if he looked at me wrong …i agree it should not have been put on instagram that was dum but people have different perceptions of things and this world has some messed up perceptions

  • bkisses

    I really don’t think this guy is a pedo, but to display a picture of someone taking a bath with his child or grandchild, why would you display this photo for everyone to see. You can’t blame people for being concerned, cause of all the child abuse going on in this country. Her being 4 years old is way too old for her to be taking baths with someone, she needs her privacy and for an adult to supervise her in the bathtub, not take a bath with her. Why not take photos of you and her swimming in a pool.

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  • toptrakker

    Stupid to post this picture even if innocent. However the thought of allowing the sharing of bath is in my opinion bad judgement and should not been allowed.

  • Black Santa

    Not for nothing he did have a pervish face though. #ReverendDoWrong

  • op1/4cav

    As long as your family knows that no foul play took place that’s ALL that matters!

  • jonp

    Bathing with children is completely normal in a lot of cultures and its even ritualistic in some.
    I think our obsession with political correctness makes us hypersensitive to a wide range of issues.

  • Jay Kay

    The only thing wrong with the situation is everyone has put their opinion where it doesn’t belong ! My mother has bathed with my niece. I’ve bathed with my brother. Its a shame that instead of people looking at a loving family moment, they corrupt the situation with their own sick thoughts. With that being said nice picture pastor and I love the wall surrounding the tub ! How many people noticed the expensive marble wall ? Smh

    • Maggie Rae

      I don’t think the “expensive marble wall” is the focus of the photograph. That’s just like someone looking at your graduation picture and saying: I love that beautiful building in the background!” Lets use some sense of reasoning and logic in our comments, especially about something that is as serious as this subject. What makes it serious you may ask? It’s serious because the masses are commenting on it.

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  • mstz80

    Hello people obviously he didn’t take the picture himself so someone else is in the bathroom!!! come on people use your brains….

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  • Paris Dillard

    somethings you just do not do smh

  • http://www.facebook.com/marilyn.willett.5 Marilyn Willett

    if this clown knew the bible he would know it says ”do not give even the appearance of evil”

  • http://www.facebook.com/marilyn.willett.5 Marilyn Willett

    so he was in the tub when they arrived, and why did they go walking into the bathroom?

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  • kim k

    Ur worried about a man taking a shower with. His own grand daughter? God americans r really confused. U should be worried about a man desiring another man’s asshole other than the way God made it 2 be. How can u desire a hole dats made 2 pass out feaces,toxic waste from the body?HIV was first found among homosexuals,God destroyed sodom and gomorrah cos of dis and ur govt is giving dem the right 2 operate openly in ur city. Hmmm,if u read the bible u know dat the. Beast is here. A woman dat see a fellow woman and fantasizes about her is possessed by evil spirit. If u go for a deliverance u will be free. Pastors in America wat r u waiting for deliver dis people from the power of darkness and let them be free from all dis gay and lesbian syndrome. With prayers they will be delivered from the devil’s trap

    • Maggie Rae

      First of all, this article is not about same gender sex. Secondly, what makes you think Americans are single-minded? I can tell you this. “Guest From Another Planet”, at least most Americans don’t invent their own backward sounding grammar. If you want Americans to respect your “off the sanity cliff” opinion, then you need to communicate in American Standard English. By the way, I have feeling that you were born and raised right here in the United States of America. Based on your comments, you’ve never been out-side of the neighborhood that you grew up in.

  • kim

    ewwwwww i can see if she was a boy he just a pervert

  • Delaun Brown

    grandpas dont get in the bathtubs with their grandbabies!!! uh duh!!!!!

  • Sajdaah

    There are still people who do not have a filthy mind in this world… grow up & stop letting the machinations of a degraded mind tarnish the image of innocence… YES! There are people who are pedophile & perverts in this world, but NO! I DO NOT SEE THAT IN THIS PICTURE AT ALL!~! Prey on THAT~

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  • mlk84

    Unless you show the swim trunks and the two of you getting in the tub as Bethenny and Jason did with their daughter Bryn once on a show, this is never a good idea. Mommy should not be breaking down her daughter’s safeguards with older men by doing this. The daughter should have been told, little girls don’t bathe with grown men. It is a bath tub not a swimming pool. I believe the preacher. I believe the Preacher, the mother, and all adults involved, especially the one who posted the picture knowing they were in swimming trunks, exercised the poorest of judgment. It was oooooober poor judgment on adults involved. In the end, it is not a good idea to bathe with your granddaughter. Period.

  • jthoen

    I don’t understand why a 4 year old would “walk in” the bathroom when her grandpa is taking a bath. Then she wants to come in the bath with him. I was never allowed in the bathroom while my dad was in the shower. My mom would bathe and I would walk in but I didn’t join her. I’m not saying anything happened in the picture…it looks innocent. I just feel it opens up a whole can of worms and the picture should have remained private.

  • dj7200

    Ain’t nothing innocent about this crap, take her to a swimming pool. Explain why it is inappropriate for grand pa to freak her in the tub; he just made it easy for the next man to get in the tub with her. The family should be questioning this, there are many preachers out their who are perv’s.

  • Anti-believer

    Yes you may have shared bathwater because you were SO POOR but I highly doubt it that you are now. Plus, that still is not a reason for this. at least don’t post the picture for the world… GEEZ!

  • http://www.facebook.com/tinypirategirl Calesta Lee Howell

    THAT PICTURE IS SO STINKING CUTE.MY BROTHER AND I(I AM A GIRL) BATHED WITH MY DAD ALL THE TIME.I WAS 4 ALSO.IF YOU WERE ABUSED.GET COUNSELING,NOT EVERYBODY IS A MONSTER.MY DAD COOKED BREAKFAST NAKED TILL HE GT BURNT BY BACON.WE STILL JOKE ABOUT IT.ENJOY THE JOY FOLKS

    • Maggie Rae

      Since you think your family time was so normal, where are the photos of your fun activities? I’m sure you have plenty of them in your family album. And everyone who thinks this picture is wrong, has not been abused. Saying this about them just shows out limited the accusers are in defending this grandpa taking a bubble bath with is grandchild. These people must not pay attention to news stories involving close family members harming each other. Sorry, your family story is not one that other families should emulate.

      • Steven Kaufman

        Wow, so you see a “news story” and assume everyone is a monster? It’s people like you who are the monsters and see innocent activities as “monstrous.” You obviously have some issues of your own you are working through, most likely because of a family member abusing you, but that is the exception, not the rule.

        • Maggie Rae

          Yes Steven Kaufman, I guess I am the one who has the unresolved family issues. Based on your arguement (and many other posters) there are absolutely no boundaries that cannot be crossed in family relationships. Sounds to me that whatever “family activities” one engages in is innocent because, “it’s family”. And when someone questions the “family activity”, in your way of thinking, they become “monsters” and have experienced “abuse” at the hands of their own family. If you want to defend Bishop Trotter and his family, I suggest you come up with a better defense than verbally attacking the questioner.

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  • Moriah

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  • Moriah

    Blah. Cat on keyboard. Issue is that pictures like that don’t belong online to be honest.

    Pictures of me existed from when I was two, covered head to toe in spaghetti sauce, and nothing else. I’m glad they disappeared and were only shown to one perspective boyfriend when I was a kid by a grandma who got excited to meet him. I swear I had nothing to do with it vanishing. No, really. ;)

    Now, on the subject of family members bathing together. Before my mother left my father (sometime shortly before my third birthday) the baths I remember were me bathing myself. I would hope that a parent was at least trying to keep an ear out if nothing else, but I remember sudsing up my hair myself (not using baby shampoo either). When Mom left him and moved in with her parents, my grandmother was quite upset at this practice and started actually giving me baths, usually taking hers at the same time. No, nothing inappropriate ever happened. In the 80s, no one thought anything of this practice. Especially done by a grandmother, who was born in 1922.

    Yes, people did share water back then. Sometimes, a grandparent bathing a child is appropriate, and to save time I’m willing to bet some have felt it safer to bathe with the child rather than leave them alone in a bathtub full of water where they could drown. No, we never took pictures. Though the other grandmother thought the spaghetti sauce moment was too precious not to photograph.

  • gorgeous_chik7

    Yes, I think it’s inappropriate for a grown man to take a bath with a little girl, but if I had saw this picture, it is obvious to me that someone took the picture, which means someone was aware that they were in the tub together. If it wasn’t innocent then they probably wouldn’t be taking a pic and the dad and daughter wouldn’t be cheesing like that. My point is the pic looks innocent. I assumed they had swim trunks on which they did. My friend posted a similar pic, difference was that the wife took the pic and the dad’s swim trunks were showing (lucky for them right?). I think it’s common for young kids to want to take baths with their parents/grandparents, and this probably happens often (with swim trunks more than likely). Difference is most people have enough sense to not post it online.

  • sscarzz

    You can say anything you want….. It’s still WRONG! Lock the bathroom door too…

  • redduck walk

    red duck walk, First of all I don’t care if she did bag popo to get in there with him . It’s a new day and time and that doesn’t look good at all . And he should have example to his granddaughter she could not get in the tub point blak. What is wrong with people and than they take pictures real stupid . Yes I think it should be looked into how many times has this happen and are there others? And he know and the dumb
    daughther know that was wrong . Some things you just don’t do .

  • http://www.facebook.com/OxygenLynne Lynne Gordon

    Well, even with his explanation of the swimming trunks between them, why was a 4-year-old even allowed to see a grown man in the bathtub in the first place? Even if it is her grandfather.
    If there is any blame here, place it where it always belongs when children are involved… with the parents.

  • CG

    I dont care if the situation was more innocent than it appeared. In this day in age you just dont do stuff like that. Tell the girl no she cannot get in the tub with grandpa. How the hell did she see him in the tub for her to start begging to get in weirdo’s.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/char.inman Char Inman

    Sure she saw popo in the tub so he got out and put swim trunks on and then got back in with the grandaughter. Doesnt sound right. Stupid

  • http://twitter.com/aachild africanamericanchild

    This is nothing worse than the young girls on Facebook posting pics of themselves in their bedrooms and bathrooms. While they may be fully clothed, there is no business for a child, especially a girl or teenager to stand in the bathroom snapping pics of themselves while you see toilet paper, maxi pads, wash rags, and towels. Nor should someone be taking pics of them in their bedrooms sitting up in their beds. Kids don’ tmean any harm. But as a parent, would you invite a stranger into your home and let him or her walk into your daughter’s bedroom and watch her? Or the bathroom? It’s all ridiculous!

  • TheWittyGal

    Nonsense like this only happens in America. If the poor man had something to hide, trust me, he wouldn’t be posing for a picture. Lack of common sense…

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  • Cathy

    It may be all innocent, but i would not let any of my children get into the bath with their any of their grandfathers, and neither would any of their grandfathers think of doing anything like this, with all the exposed stories of sexual abuse MEN NEED TO BE EXTRA CAREFUL

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  • Guy

    Sad thing is you can’t do this in this day and age. The media will turn you into a monster. There is a definite witch hunt going on in America when it concerns sexual predators and no matter how innocent the action was, perception is the real law of this land. I remember taking baths with both my grandmother and grandfather when I was younger, nothing ever happened. Current age is twenty seven. If I ever have kids I wouldn’t let them do this. Things are just way to different now.

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